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Decline of Christianity (in England)
#11
RE: Decline of Christianity (in England)
I understanding the C of E has been suffering from diminishing numbers for decades.Even Dawn French has been unable to help,with her wonderful parish of halfwits,misanthropes and sexual deviates.(Dibley)Tiger


Here in Oz, a full 8% of our population claims to attend church regularly.



Quote: I have been thinking a lot recently about why countries and or cultures leave their faith. It seems that the ones that keep their faith the longest have historically had a less oppressive form of that religion.

What do you'all think?


Mmmm,no.

Look at the religious history of say the Dutch,the Danes, and the Swedes. Yet today they are among the most secular nations. I'm convinced there is a direct link between secularism to affluence and education.

It seems to me that the greater the depth of dogmatic fundamentalism,the greater the depth of poverty and ignorance.
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RE: Decline of Christianity (in England)
(December 23, 2011 at 1:44 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: I think another poll put xtians at about 44% which seems more like it.

70% is embarrassingly high for a secular state like the UK. They must have selected most of the fuckwits.

I think it could be the way the questions were worded and also the survey was done face to face.
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#13
RE: Decline of Christianity (in England)
(December 23, 2011 at 1:49 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(December 23, 2011 at 1:44 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: 70% is embarrassingly high for a secular state like the UK.
The UK isn't secular.

It is.

I know there are some churches but that's where all the funny people go on a Sunday.

You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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RE: Decline of Christianity (in England)
(December 24, 2011 at 8:13 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:
(December 23, 2011 at 1:49 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(December 23, 2011 at 1:44 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: 70% is embarrassingly high for a secular state like the UK.
The UK isn't secular.
It is.
Its not.

England is still behind the rest of the UK in that the Church of England is still its established state religion. Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have already been disestablished from their official/state religions.

In the House of Lords there are members holding seats known as the "Lords Spiritual" and of those there are currently 26. They don't vote, and they ensure Church measures are always tabled within the House so they have involvement in law-making decisions over the entire United Kingdom. Parliament itself is opened with prayers. They are invariably also given life peerages and sit as Lords Temporal.

Civil Servants such as the police force, local authorities, governmental services, various offices and departments are all subject to the Crown. The full term for the expression of the Crown's sovereignty via legislation is the Crown-in-Parliament-under-God.

At a coronation of a King or Queen, they *must* be anointed with consecrated oil by the current Archbishop of Canterbury in a service at Westminster Abbey, they cannot assume the throne without his presence, and then must swear to maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel. They *must* protect the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law in the UK. The Act of Settlement 1701 also forbids any Catholic from sitting on the throne.

England is a mess.
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RE: Decline of Christianity (in England)
Obviously the fact that I was fucking around went over your head.

Do I really come across as dumb enough to not know that we have state religion? (LOL, actually don't answer, sometimes the truth hurts).

You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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RE: Decline of Christianity (in England)
(December 24, 2011 at 8:58 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Obviously the fact that I was fucking around went over your head.
No excuses. Messing with a Nonconformist over such a sensitive topic matter wasn't particularly clever of you.
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RE: Decline of Christianity (in England)
(December 23, 2011 at 1:32 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
Quote:The number of people who call themselves Christians in England and Wales has fallen by almost 10% in five years, an official survey suggests.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16312901

Theists, I eagerly await your No True Scotsman fallacies. I'm curious though. Would Jesus' followers argue that if Christianity dies off will the world, according to their deities' plan, end? Seeing how there's no point for any more people to be born since no one else can be saved? I wonder if the Muslims share that egocentricity too. Tongue

Unfortunately, this is on par with the Christian doomsday prophecies.
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