Theists are Insecure

[Godscreated]

If this were simply a matter of secular history I would agree with you that the lack of corroboration is not surprising. What we are talking about here though are supernatural events. In our day and time and even in recent history there has been no proof that supernatural/miracle events can happen besides some attributions.

So when a document is claiming that something happened that seems to not exist in reality it is going to raise red flags. If Christianity is truly guided by the divine creator of the universe than it should not be too much for him to provide an easier way to see that the Bible is true. A divine hand in it should make it a lot less difficult unless that divine hand is intentionally trying to make things difficult.

God is not trying to make salvation hard, actually He has made it a lot easier. Before Christ most gentiles had no idea of what God was about, and the Israelites were having to sacrifice animals all the time to cover their sins because, they could not come close to living up to the Law of Moses. Now faith in Christ and accepting who He is and what did for us will bring the grace of God and His salvation. I'm not trying to preach here just trying to show that things were made easier.

[chi pan]

So when a document is claiming that something happened that seems to not exist in reality it is going to raise red flags. If Christianity is truly guided by the divine creator of the universe than it should not be too much for him to provide an easier way to see that the Bible is true. A divine hand in it should make it a lot less difficult unless that divine hand is intentionally trying to make things difficult.

no matter what happened back then a skeptic can always say it did not happen. they can say Rome did not exist however all we have to go by is what was written. we cannot go back in time to witness these events, all we can do is have faith that events written down were true.

[Erinome]

God is not trying to make salvation hard, actually He has made it a lot easier. Before Christ most gentiles had no idea of what God was about, and the Israelites were having to sacrifice animals all the time to cover their sins because, they could not come close to living up to the Law of Moses. Now faith in Christ and accepting who He is and what did for us will bring the grace of God and His salvation. I'm not trying to preach here just trying to show that things were made easier.

People never had to sacrifice animals to cover their sins. They thought they did. The laws of Moses were stupid fucking laws. You're god is unacceptable to anyone with a shred of thoughtfulness and morality. Things were made easier? Do you know how disgusting and stupid you sound?

You know how to make things easier? Just get rid of God. Sins forgiven. If your god was that great, nobody would have had to sacrifice animals to "cover their sins", and he would just forgive them. I am but a mortal, and I can just forgive people. It's easy.

I forgive you for being an idiot, but it makes me really sick that people like you infect this world and warp it into madness because you're mad, and want company.

Every time you read your posts, I don't give a fuck what happens to me when I die, as long as I am far away from your god, and people like you.

[Shell B]

if you pay attention, sacrifices are burnt and jesus was not burnt.

That is just a blatant, outright lie.

[chi pan]

That is just a blatant, outright lie.

care to elaborate? which part and why?

[Shell B]

Um, the part that I quoted.

A Bibley answer for you http://www.gotquestions.org/animal-sacrifices.html. Note how they mention that Jesus himself was a sacrifice. This mentions only blood and nothing about fire.

You are thinking of the burnt sacrifice, which is mentioned a good deal in the Bible. However, there is nothing to suggest the sacrifice was by fire, that I have read. In fact, from what I can see, the animal's blood was shed on an altar by a priest. Then, the animal was burned because God likes the smell of burning flesh. http://doctor.claudemariottini.com/2006/...ifice.html Not all sacrifices were burnt. There are specific mentions of burnt offerings in the bible, but not all are burnt. Jesus' death is explicitly called a sacrifice, in the bible, in the Church and by everyone except for disingenuous assholes who didn't realize it was idiotic to say that god does not allow human sacrifice. Keep backtracking. It suits you.

[Welsh cake]

God is not trying to make salvation hard, actually He has made it a lot easier.

Easier? Which God? Salvation through what means? The odds are hopelessly stacked against us, you only have to watch this response to Pascal's Wager to appreciate that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZpJ7yUPwdU

[houseofcantor]

theists are an insecure bunch of people

QFmfT.

The Masada of defensible positions.

[Erinome]

I mean, just look at how they scramble to defend themselves! I think the original hypothesis hasn't been disproved, and we can think it a safe bet to be sure that theists are insecure. Especially Christians.

Like I said before, this isn't the way people behave when they're certain they are in possession of the truth.

[Norfolk And Chance]

If this were simply a matter of secular history I would agree with you that the lack of corroboration is not surprising. What we are talking about here though are supernatural events. In our day and time and even in recent history there has been no proof that supernatural/miracle events can happen besides some attributions.

So when a document is claiming that something happened that seems to not exist in reality it is going to raise red flags. If Christianity is truly guided by the divine creator of the universe than it should not be too much for him to provide an easier way to see that the Bible is true. A divine hand in it should make it a lot less difficult unless that divine hand is intentionally trying to make things difficult.

God is not trying to make salvation hard, actually He has made it a lot easier. Before Christ most gentiles had no idea of what God was about, and the Israelites were having to sacrifice animals all the time to cover their sins because, they could not come close to living up to the Law of Moses. Now faith in Christ and accepting who He is and what did for us will bring the grace of God and His salvation. I'm not trying to preach here just trying to show that things were made easier.

You're not showing anything though, you're just talking about your completely unfounded belief system.