The Death and Resurrection of Christ?

[Anomalocaris]

Yes. There is no evidence he did. I don't think qua the divine twat existed either for the same reason.

If I get 2 million fools to echo "qua the divine twat is the light, the peace, and the only salvation" would make no difference.

Do you have issues with Christianity?

Yes, and that insurmontably magnified by truly shabby promises and threats made to entice 2 billion fools to also chants without evidence the equivalent of "qua the divine twat is the light, the peace, and the only salvation"

[Faith No More]

Well, one thing to consider is that even with today's advancement in communication technology, false myths such as urban legends parade around as fact. Take into account that almost all information back then traveled by word of mouth without the luxury of these advancements and it's quite easy to see how anything, if repeated enough, can suddenly take on the appearance of 'truth.'

[Minimalist]

Yes. There is no evidence he did. I don't think qua the divine twat existed either for the same reason.

If I get 2 million fools to echo "qua the divine twat is the light, the peace, and the only salvation" would make no difference.

Do you have issues with Christianity?

I have issues with all religions. Xtianity simply happens to be the one that annoys me the most frequently.

Ok, got any reason to think Jesus didn't exist?

One of the most compelling reasons is that even the proponents of the story cannot agree on the details. That suggests to me that they are full of shit and let's remember that the early church systematically tried to stamp out alternate views so we really don't know everything that may have been out there.

The list of xtian "heresies" is impressive and at one time or another all of them thought they had the line on their boy jesus.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

if you examine many religions, ancient ones before Christianity, you will find that Christianity shockingly but not surprisingly has a lot in common with most of these religions. Born of a virgin, resurrected afer three days, 12 disciples, miraculous performance and so on.

Those claims are pretty much bullshit,as you will find if you take the trouble to actually familiarise yourself with say the mythology of: Zoroaster, Mithras, Krsna,Horus and his parents Isis and Osiris.

Let me guess, your evidence is from"Zeitgeist". That piece of elaborate crackpottery/fraud has been around for some years and has taken in a lot of credulous/ignorant,/intellectually lazy people

[Erinome]

Zeitgeist is a piece of shit. It's full of inaccuracies, however, there is something to be said for Jesus having some things in common with other gods throughout history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Chris..._mythology

The most striking similarity is the evidence. We have just as much evidence for most of the ancient gods as we do for Jesus. That, and they're all myths, of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Zeitgeist is a piece of shit. It's full of inaccuracies, however, there is something to be said for Jesus having some things in common with other gods throughout history.

Well yes,Christianity is a derivative religion,with not ONE new idea. It is also one of the earlier failed millennial religions.


THE most common element I've been able to find with other religions (apart from the moral code) is the resurrected god.THAT is common in many religions.

[Tobie]

It's not just Jesus that has elements stolen from other religions. The whole garden of Eden thing is essentially lifted from the greek mythology.

As for why early christians said that Jesus was resurrected, they had to come up with reasons why he was just no mere mortal. Look at North Korea. The last 1700 years of the western world has been one big cult of personality.

[Ace Otana]

Hi, this is my first post on this forum.

I come from a conservative Christian background, but I now doubt the existence of God. I probably doubt more now than believe. By question (which is probably very common) is thus: How did Christianity begin if Jesus Christ died and stayed dead?

Did the disciples start Christianity, and if so why did they say Christ had risen and that they had seen Him if it is false?

Hello!

Jesus may of existed but only as a typical human being. Not god. I think he like many preachers at the time just did the same old thing and talk bollocks. A few tricks here and there. But what I think made him stand out was his public execution. The Romans unintentionally made him a martyr, and you can't kill a martyr.
Did he exist? Maybe.
Did he resurrect? Not likely.

When they say witnesses (those who saw his rise from the dead) they aren't really able to give us some names.
It's like me saying "A fat pink pixie flew down from the sky and landed on my shoulder, just ask the hundred witnesses who were there". Who are these witnesses?
It's actually more probable that his followers hid/destroyed his body and claimed he "rose from the dead".

Religions are all the same. Packs of lies. No honesty, no consistency and no evidence.

Now I've got to give you a hug!

[Minimalist]

In fairness, Zeitgeist relies heavily on the work of Kersey Graves who died in 1883 and so did not have the advantage of the last 120 years of research.

Xtian horseshit which is based on the work of 19th century archaeologists and historians is not very good, either.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

In fairness, Zeitgeist relies heavily on the work of Kersey Graves who died in 1883 and so did not have the advantage of the last 120 years of research.

Sounds about right;about 100 years out of date. I often come across people on forums who cite Fraser's "The Golden Bough" as an authority. (first published 1890)