Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.

[The Grand Nudger]

Loki actually had to resort to a magical arrow to kill Baldur. Or a silver spear...depending upon which side of the gaelic/tuetonic divide you're speaking from. That being said, when you break those chains and release the wolves...remember I'm sympathetic.

[houseofcantor]

The Lake of Fire is reserved for satan and his cronies.

Oh, looky what you just did. You know what I got? Historical context. What am I here; fucking avatar with a keyboard, say what ever the fuck I want. But in the Valley of the Sun? Where I walked off the job in 2008 in realization that prophet was my occupation? Right to looney bin, scientific fuck that I am; to spell it out to the mental health professionals.

To document, in other words; cause you know what kept happened? I wuz talking too much sense. Yeah, everybody convinced of the reality of comedy - Jesus come back; and right into the padded cell... but I'm just a guy who, somehow, missed that. I mean, standing before the creator of the universe; gotta be a mofo vision of some kind... what does that really mean?

Well, fuck-all. Writer of comedic fiction, I am. There is no "living prophet," there is only dead controversy... until I chose Gwyneth over God... whoo, doggie, they miss a whopper when they dared fortell of this prophet.. but come the fuck on, you read that book, you think god is some "nice' thing? All that is, scripture - Israel - he who struggles with god. Sacrifice your son. Alienate yourself from your people, as I play mind games with Pharaoh at your expense, Moshe...

I am with you, Moses...

You fucking people have no clue. I know the fucking science, so we'll just skip to the update. It was written - pontificates the Charlton Heston within...

Fear God; for hell awaits those who have no fear of God.

Now reads, Fear God; because everybody is watching you, all... the... time...

From September, last; and what do I remember? Of all of this "visual," was but one time I heard the voice of god - as, of course, torment - and I offer you, the kingdom of hell.

Voice. That was heard. And what did you just say. The Lake of Fire is my domain, my concern, yet there you go again... helping yourself to authority you do not possess with the Christian identity... and with willful disregard, write yourself into bondage.

To me.

Can you hear me over there? Safe behind your constructed reality of community context? Of positive reinforcement, of monkey see, monkey do? Are you, safe, in your faith?

And did you know, that i love you? The worst part it is, I destroyed it; hell, after being the only tenant - 4 times - as part of the Israel - struggle with god. What is left weighs less than these words.

I - stole - the 4 - YHWH - right from the text. Cause I did the job, fool. I answered the fucking question and it was witnessed. You cannot even erase me from history; with whatever victorious army you may postulate...

And I'm quite sure it doesn't even fucking matter. Wheels within wheels. Once upon a time - I fucked up - right at the beginning of the departure from any pretense of sanity. spoke one of those Eternal Truths... so cover yer eyes!

God - does not do - sequential time.

Where's yer god of word now, dog?

[reverendjeremiah]

Loki actually had to resort to a magical arrow to kill Baldur. Or a silver spear...depending upon which side of the gaelic/tuetonic divide you're speaking from. That being said, when you break those chains and release the wolves...remember I'm sympathetic.

If you were REALLY sympathetic... would you have given away my secret of killing the gods?!?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOMz3dCjnG4&feature=fvst

[genkaus]

You have taken my words and turned them around to fit what you believe, that's fine, however there is no truth in what you say.

Can you tell me which part of my statement about Christianity is inconsistent with your beliefs? How exactly have I misrepresented your beliefs?

You continue on this path until you die you will be able to see what you rejected and will regret it for eternity

And what path is that? Sinful? Tell me, what sin of mine have you witnessed that makes you so certain that I would go to hell and not heaven despite my disbelief in god.

How do you know I will regret it? Why would I regret it?

by the way you will be alone in hell with no one to keep you company in your misery,

Why would I be alone? Aren't other atheists going to hell as well?

And why would I be miserable? Being alone is not enough to make me miserable.

everything you cherished in this life will be denied to you in hell.

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What I cherish most in my life is myself. How would your god deny me myself?

In this life misery loves company, in hell misery will have no company. There will be different levels of anguish in hell, depends on the judgment you receive for the life you live now.

Are there different levels of eternity as well? If not then the different levels of pain is moot. 1 times infinity is the same as 10 times infinity.

But once again, thanks for reaffirming my conviction that those who believe in god are irrational in nature. That you and your kind are incapable of using reason. Instead of actually replying to my evaluation of your beliefs, you reiterate them. Instead of telling me why I might feel what I would feel, you simply claim, as if you'd know more about my emotions than myself.

This is the nature of your death-worshiping cult of Christianity. My ending up in hell is uncertain, but you are already in yours. The mass of contradictions within your mind has made it impotent and for a human I can imagine no greater degradation. You live blindly and not just that, you are proud of your blindness. Coming over and over again again to atheistic forums to reaffirm your blindness, to see what more facts you can ignore, what more logic can you disregard. You see the facts but are literally incapable of forming ideas about them. They simply don't register. The very existence of such an anti-conceptual mind is an insult to human intelligence.

See? Atheists can spew vitriol as well. Do not take it to mean that I didn't mean all that. I meant every word. But normally I wouldn't consider them to have a place in rational dialogue.

[houseofcantor]

Loki actually had to resort to a magical arrow to kill Baldur. Or a silver spear...depending upon which side of the gaelic/tuetonic divide you're speaking from. That being said, when you break those chains and release the wolves...remember I'm sympathetic.

If you were REALLY sympathetic... would you have given away my secret of killing the gods?!?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOMz3dCjnG4&feature=fvst

Chin up, Legionette! We got all kind of secret; slaying these punk assed "new" gods.

[Aegrus]

It's clear there's no reasoning with Godschild. He's even said that he will defend the bible until his death, so one wonders. . .why is he even on this forum?

He's clearly not looking for information, and yet he'd have to be a complete idiot to think that the fallacious, proof-less arguments he has used can convert anyone. Is he simply looking to stir up trouble?

[houseofcantor]

It's clear there's no reasoning with Godschild. He's even said that he will defend the bible until his death, so one wonders. . .why is he even on this forum?

He's clearly not looking for information, and yet he'd have to be a complete idiot to think that the fallacious, proof-less arguments he has used can convert anyone. Is he simply looking to stir up trouble?

I don't know, meng. He lets me reply with all kinds of crazy shit - which i gotta balance against my own atheist identity - and I don't feel bad about saying it, he keeps looking bad by avoiding it, there's historical context to consider...

Hafta spell it out for ya? War. Ain't no point, coloring it any other way. The enemy, all camped out on an indefensible plain? That we do not Mass, Attack, and Destroy; indicates to me the willingness of atheism to "lack belief" in ethical standard for the sake of individual moral purity.

I ain't got that kind of faith. I am Faction; this posturing but a rough draft for Action. Jackson.

[Welsh cake]

It's clear there's no reasoning with Godschild. He's even said that he will defend the bible until his death, so one wonders. . .why is he even on this forum?

I've often wondered what his reasons for signing up were.

Its certainly not to convert people. If that was the original intention then he's failed miserably, he's alienated people from his god concept, and according to his own dogma is in as much danger of hellfire as we supposedly are.

Yet he swaggers about with his logic-proof-armour as invincibly as trolls do... hmm.

[Godscreated]

Godschild-
You have said that there is no fire in hell, only dark emptiness and misery, and that the torture comes from regret. What if I choose not to regret, or lead a good life which I regret very little of?

If I can't choose not to regret, then I don't have free will.

You set yourself up to fail, GC, and I'm laughing my ass off. You've backed yourself into an indefensible corner, where to defend one point, you would have to surrender another. Face it. You've lost.

First of all I said IMO there was no fire in hell, thus darkness and misery. Your torment will be self inflicted through regret, hatred and anger, please read what I write. If you wind up in hell you will not have freewill, none, other than to make yourself miserable. You will definitely have regret, you will have no choice in the matter, I could explain why but, I feel it would be wasting my time. No corner here, have surrendered nothing.

[Erinome]

First of all I said IMO there was no fire in hell, thus darkness and misery. Your torment will be self inflicted through regret, hatred and anger, please read what I write. If you wind up in hell you will not have freewill, none, other than to make yourself miserable. You will definitely have regret, you will have no choice in the matter, I could explain why but, I feel it would be wasting my time. No corner here, have surrendered nothing.

It's not going to be hell at all if there's no christians there. That's more like reprieve.