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RE: The Fear Card
January 11, 2012 at 7:37 pm
(January 10, 2012 at 2:12 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: The "God doesn't want anyone to go to hell" is just something stupid that Christians invented because they're uncomfortable with the idea of an all-good, loving god who loves everyone sending some of those people to hell to burn for eternity. They totally ignore their own dogma that God is the creator of the entire universe, Heaven, Hell, and everything. Not to mention the fact that if he's all-powerful, he could abolish hell and make everyone go to heaven, or at least not torture the "bad" people.
adding to this, it say's that god hates the sin not the sinner. So why not eliminate the sin and not the sinner. If god loves everyone then everyone should go to heaven right? but then again. God made the earth supposedly, so he's the one that put the tree of knowledge (which is ironic in itself, you would think that knowing this would get christians to realize God does not want you to think) in the garden with supposedly to new human lifes that really don't know jack from shit. tells them not to eat from the tree. that is like putting candy infront of a 1 year old saying you better not take that. and the 1 year takes it and gets punished for taking it. the 1 year old had no idea what he was doing wrong such as the story of adam. And i don't know how any woman who likes their rights would ever be a christian knowing the verse that says " and eve was made for adam" the fact that god already said that women was a mans property.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm
They believe all this, all the while trying to explain to us that the bible isn't sexist.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 12, 2012 at 11:43 pm
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(January 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: They believe all this, all the while trying to explain to us that the bible isn't sexist.
Or the Torah/Talmud, or the Qur'An, or Dianetics, or the Book of Mormon, etc. etc.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 13, 2012 at 8:30 pm
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Cmon, they don't actually believe their text, just the bits they like. I can say that with complete certainty, to every single believer of every single faith. Were it not so, there would be no such thing as apologetics (or denominations)...in any faith, of any kind, anywhere.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 14, 2012 at 2:29 am
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(January 13, 2012 at 8:30 pm)Rhythm Wrote: they don't actually believe their text, just the bits they like.
I couldn't care less what they believe. Or why. They can believe all they like afaic.
The problems start when they act on it.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 14, 2012 at 4:29 am
I like how the bible punishes men for raping an unwed virgin with a fine and a marriage (to the victim) because raping a woman is the acat of shaming a man's honor and the pennance must be paid in full to the victim's father, brother, or other male relative.
... real progressive view of women, bible.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 14, 2012 at 11:07 am
Damnit, if only that was the way we do things today huh. I could go out and rape a real hotty, and she couldn't do anything but marry me. SWEET.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm
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(January 14, 2012 at 11:07 am)Napo Wrote: Damnit, if only that was the way we do things today huh. I could go out and rape a real hotty, and she couldn't do anything but marry me. SWEET.
FYI: that IS "the way we do things today". In Afghanistan: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16201956
So when are you moving?
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RE: The Fear Card
January 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm
(January 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm)Rokcet Scientist Wrote: So when are you moving?
I'm packing my things now.
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RE: The Fear Card
January 14, 2012 at 2:22 pm
(January 14, 2012 at 4:29 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: I like how the bible punishes men for raping an unwed virgin with a fine and a marriage (to the victim) because raping a woman is the acat of shaming a man's honor and the pennance must be paid in full to the victim's father, brother, or other male relative.
... real progressive view of women, bible.
well technically "god" raped Mary when she was like 12 to 14 years old. So if you really believe in the text rape and child molestation is cool. hmm. i would rather just believe in satanism if i had to believe in something because at least he's honest about his anti morals and not trying to make them seem justified.
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