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RE: Islam true religion?
January 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm
Quote:Because we're all still fucking with him.
I'm not . My mum taught me not be cruel to children,animals and girls. My dear old Nana taught me it's wicked to mock the afflicted.(or was it Frankie Howerd?)
Mods:In my opinion the newly converted fool is indeed preaching,badly.
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 29, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Zakir_250
Although you said you don't have experience in making a debate with atheists. That's understandable, but if you really want to making an logical argument with us, so please learn the basics of logical argument if you have time. It'll be fun to making an arguments.
Have a nice day.
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 29, 2012 at 11:01 pm
At the OP, instead of mining for apologists, why don't you respond to our rebuttals? I could post videos of AronRa and Christopher Hitchens over and over, but it would do nothing to improve my skills at discourse or teach me anything about the opposing views.
"In our youth, we lacked the maturity, the decency to create gods better than ourselves so that we might have something to aspire to. Instead we are left with a host of deities who were violent, narcissistic, vengeful bullies who reflected our own values. Our gods could have been anything we could imagine, and all we were capable of manifesting were gods who shared the worst of our natures."-Me
"Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men." – Francis Bacon
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 30, 2012 at 12:00 am
(January 29, 2012 at 7:32 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: (January 29, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Hitchslap Wrote: (January 29, 2012 at 7:23 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: What about this as evidence;
"Kerala is a state of India. The state stretches for 360 miles (580 kilometers) along the Malabar Coast on the southwestern side of the Indian peninsula.[3] King Chakrawati Farmas of Malabar was a Chera king, Cheraman perumal of Kodungallure. He is recorded to have seen the moon split. The incident is documented in a manuscript kept at the India Office Library, London, reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173.[4] A group of Muslim merchant’s passing by Malabar on their way to China spoke to the king about how God had supported the Arabian prophet with the miracle of splitting of the moon. The shocked king said he had seen it with his own eyes as well, deputized his son, and left for Arabia to meet the Prophet in person. The Malabari king met the Prophet, bore the two testimonies of faith, learned the basics of faith, but passed away on his way back and was buried in the port city of Zafar, Yemen"
see the king saw with her own eyes.
Since all of you are fans of Science, I would like to say I am too because the Quran is supported By science. Evidence: http://www.islamreligion.com/category/34/
Like I said, I came here to debate and so far I feel like I'm winning the debate.
You think you're winning? when you ignore posters replies, ignore counter-responses and keep asserting more shit on top of stinkier shit? You didnt come here to debate or even think, you care here to prosthelytize and spew out logical fallacies hoping to convert. You make me sick with your comment about seing "fans of science" arent you not? Are you not using a computer? made by science? are you not trying to refute anything thats not Islam with Pseudoscience? haha winning...quit while you're behind, pal. Bald assertions and holy books are not evidences of supernatural claims or gods, you should know that by now. I would never trick people to convert. It's against my religion. All I'm doing is providing evidence and waiting for a debate. Whereas people here are insulting my Prophet and god. Also the Bible even though I don't believe in it.
This particular piece-of-shit evidence has been refuted before. One person, just one, saying that he saw the moon split. There is no indication that he said anything like that before he met the Muslim pilgrim. And apparently, he saw the moon split and failed to awaken every person he could to see the split as well.
If this witness was produced in the court of law, he'd be laughed out of there. Try to reply for once.
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 30, 2012 at 11:25 am
(January 30, 2012 at 12:00 am)genkaus Wrote: (January 29, 2012 at 7:32 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: (January 29, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Hitchslap Wrote: (January 29, 2012 at 7:23 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: What about this as evidence;
"Kerala is a state of India. The state stretches for 360 miles (580 kilometers) along the Malabar Coast on the southwestern side of the Indian peninsula.[3] King Chakrawati Farmas of Malabar was a Chera king, Cheraman perumal of Kodungallure. He is recorded to have seen the moon split. The incident is documented in a manuscript kept at the India Office Library, London, reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173.[4] A group of Muslim merchant’s passing by Malabar on their way to China spoke to the king about how God had supported the Arabian prophet with the miracle of splitting of the moon. The shocked king said he had seen it with his own eyes as well, deputized his son, and left for Arabia to meet the Prophet in person. The Malabari king met the Prophet, bore the two testimonies of faith, learned the basics of faith, but passed away on his way back and was buried in the port city of Zafar, Yemen"
see the king saw with her own eyes.
Since all of you are fans of Science, I would like to say I am too because the Quran is supported By science. Evidence: http://www.islamreligion.com/category/34/
Like I said, I came here to debate and so far I feel like I'm winning the debate.
You think you're winning? when you ignore posters replies, ignore counter-responses and keep asserting more shit on top of stinkier shit? You didnt come here to debate or even think, you care here to prosthelytize and spew out logical fallacies hoping to convert. You make me sick with your comment about seing "fans of science" arent you not? Are you not using a computer? made by science? are you not trying to refute anything thats not Islam with Pseudoscience? haha winning...quit while you're behind, pal. Bald assertions and holy books are not evidences of supernatural claims or gods, you should know that by now. I would never trick people to convert. It's against my religion. All I'm doing is providing evidence and waiting for a debate. Whereas people here are insulting my Prophet and god. Also the Bible even though I don't believe in it.
This particular piece-of-shit evidence has been refuted before. One person, just one, saying that he saw the moon split. There is no indication that he said anything like that before he met the Muslim pilgrim. And apparently, he saw the moon split and failed to awaken every person he could to see the split as well.
If this witness was produced in the court of law, he'd be laughed out of there. Try to reply for once. It's a reliable witness though. It's the king, someone who has no reason to lie.
Again, I ask; Is Muhammad a liar, lunatic or prophet?
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 30, 2012 at 11:32 am
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(January 30, 2012 at 11:25 am)Zakir_250 Wrote: Again, I ask; Is Muhammad a liar, lunatic or prophet?
There you go using a logical fallacy (bifurcation fallacy) but you stole the trilemma argument from Christian apologetics. Man, you are pissing off Allah. At least your using logic now but maybe you should skip the fallacies.
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 30, 2012 at 11:40 am
Quote:Again, I ask; Is Muhammad a liar, lunatic or prophet?
Or a fictional character like moses and jesus?
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 30, 2012 at 11:50 am
(January 30, 2012 at 11:40 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Again, I ask; Is Muhammad a liar, lunatic or prophet?
Or a fictional character like moses and jesus?
Uh...your posting to Moses so I'd guess he's real 
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 30, 2012 at 11:58 am
Ok firstly I would not steal any arguments from Christians.
Why? Because there is more evidence towards Islam historically and Scientifically than Christianity.
Christianity believes in 3 gods and believes god was once a child. That's illogical.
Jesus (Peace be upon him) never knew what Chrsitianity meant because he taught monotheism.
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RE: Islam true religion?
January 30, 2012 at 12:03 pm
(January 30, 2012 at 11:58 am)Zakir_250 Wrote: Ok firstly I would not steal any arguments from Christians.
Why? Because there is more evidence towards Islam historically and Scientifically than Christianity.
Christianity believes in 3 gods and believes god was once a child. That's illogical.
Jesus (Peace be upon him) never knew what Chrsitianity meant because he taught monotheism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis's_trilemma
Now shove your fucking lies up your ass.
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