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Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Who are more moral? Men or women?
I am not an atheist but am a man who, thanks to apotheosis, believes himself to have high morals. Perhaps even superior to women.
I will take the Jewish view of Eden as man’s elevation as opposed to the Christian view that Eden was man’s fall. I do this because the Jewish view was the initial view of their scriptures. I give their view more authority than I do to Christianity. That Jewish view was later reversed by Christianity. Why Christianity did this is not clear.
http://www.mrrena.com/misc/judaism2.php
For this mental exercise, I say women are more moral than men. I take this view because teaching a topic is the best way to learn it, and that most of the child rearing/teaching in that day was done by women. Women then, teaching children their first morals, would also teach themselves morals faster than what men would.
I do not read scriptures literally but will use the literal view and my logic trail and progression through Eden as if I do.
Eve was first to eat of the tree of knowledge, and as scriptures states, became as God. That is, she developed the same moral sense as God. She then recognized that instead of leaving Adam to follow God’s instruction to not eat, she chose, with her new wisdom, to have Adam also eat of the tree of knowledge. Thus both were elevated to having a moral sense.
Is the Jewish view the correct one?
Who should lead mankind in religious and political thinking?
Who are more moral? Men or women?
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Neither are more moral. Morality doesn't depend on sex or gender, it depends on the individual.
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 1:44 pm
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(January 31, 2012 at 1:15 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Who are more moral? Men or women?
I am not an atheist but am a man who, thanks to apotheosis, believes himself to have high morals. Perhaps even superior to women.
Did your apotheosis also tell you that you appear to be a man of high gullibility, perhaps even superior to women?
Sorry, women, I was refering to his notion of women, not real women.
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 2:20 pm
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Using that myth to try and determine who's more moral is an exercise in futility. You have two pre-people, the female one eats a piece of fruit and becomes a full person, who then brings the male into full personhood. That she is female is irrelevant. The important point, and the reason for her actions afterwards, is the eating of the fruit.
Furthermore, if you are going to expose two types children to different and unequal situations, one of those situations perhaps being more likely to install good morals into a child, then to damn a gender as being less moral than the other as though it is an innate trait rather than a product of their upbringing is unfair.
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 2:22 pm
What part of "its a fucking story" ( and a lame one at that ) gives you the most trouble, GIA?
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 3:20 pm
I think I'm more moral because I do not let hate rule my life and according to the Jedi code that makes me good. I also dress mostly in white which is also an indication that I'm moral. I'm able to force choke the shit out of people, but that fact that I choose not to, means that I'm good. I was also contacted by the aliens from Canus Major and during that contact an alien symbiote was implanted that caused my identity to be subsumed into the greater good personality of the symbiote.
Wait, does this sound like a bunch of gibberish to you OP? Well guess what...
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 3:34 pm
I'm still confused as to what gender and morality have to do with each other. Perhaps the OP has mommy issues?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 3:39 pm
What do you mean by "morality"?
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
January 31, 2012 at 10:11 pm
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(January 31, 2012 at 1:21 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Neither are more moral. Morality doesn't depend on sex or gender, it depends on the individual.
Looking at individuals, you may be right.
Looking at women and men as two seperate groups, you would have to explain why the population in jail is 95 % male and 5 % female.
With those odds, I would say that generally speaking, women make us men look sick.
Looking at individuals, you may be right.
Looking at women and men as two seperate groups, you would have to explain why the population in jail is 95 % male and 5 % female.
With those odds, I would say that generally speaking, women make us look sick.
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(January 31, 2012 at 1:44 pm)Chuck Wrote: (January 31, 2012 at 1:15 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Who are more moral? Men or women?
I am not an atheist but am a man who, thanks to apotheosis, believes himself to have high morals. Perhaps even superior to women.
Did your apotheosis also tell you that you appear to be a man of high gullibility, perhaps even superior to women?
Sorry, women, I was refering to his notion of women, not real women.
I am not trying to push a belief on you, I have no dogma, dick wad, so find someone else who cares for your opinion. I am here to talk morals.
Speak to the issue or be gone.
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(January 31, 2012 at 2:20 pm)Stue Denim Wrote: Using that myth to try and determine who's more moral is an exercise in futility. You have two pre-people, the female one eats a piece of fruit and becomes a full person, who then brings the male into full personhood. That she is female is irrelevant. The important point, and the reason for her actions afterwards, is the eating of the fruit.
Furthermore, if you are going to expose two types children to different and unequal situations, one of those situations perhaps being more likely to install good morals into a child, then to damn a gender as being less moral than the other as though it is an innate trait rather than a product of their upbringing is unfair.
I don't think so and there was no fruit involved. It was knowledge.
I think the authors of that myth were just saying that male morals are first taught to us by mothers and women.
Proof is yourself if you are an average male.
Who was more responsible for your nurturing?
I place my money on your mother and female teachers in school till about the age of 6. After that, you were picking them up from your father and friends.
Pay up.
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(January 31, 2012 at 2:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What part of "its a fucking story" ( and a lame one at that ) gives you the most trouble, GIA?
I am well aware that it is a myth, so speak to the issue or be gone.
If you goofs are too dense to not already know that I use the same posts for believers, my real target, then you are not too bright.
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RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
February 1, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I don't like this guy (quite the opposite), but what can you do.
I'm a pirate. I give massive amounts of what I do have away. I'm a procrastinator, and a lazy bum. I immediately begin to spend exorbitant amounts of time and effort the moment I hear one of my friends is in need. I have no job. I work constantly, especially when I play. I have a horrid temper. Which I've only let show twice in the last 4 months, the former to protect my lover. I get jealous, envious, and covetous. I allow with being told, console myself with them having a good time, and with what I have that they do not.
Fuck 'morality' as some set-in-stone commodity... it's all personal. So to ask 'are men or women more moral' is utter nonsense until you know this: moral to whom?
Damn objectivists... I pour Sprite on your head.
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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