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You Are Going To Hell If You....
#31
RE: You Are Going To Hell If You....
(February 25, 2012 at 8:59 am)Rhythm Wrote: Can't I just have someone baptize me after my death and remove all of those sins? Angel Cloud

Yes but you will then have to go to some mormon planet called Kolob.
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#32
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#33
RE: You Are Going To Hell If You....
(February 25, 2012 at 8:04 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(February 25, 2012 at 8:59 am)Rhythm Wrote: Can't I just have someone baptize me after my death and remove all of those sins? Angel Cloud

Yes but you will then have to go to some mormon planet called Kolob.

Well, I've heard there's a bit of "fathering an entire planet" that goes on then....so as long as they baptize my wife as a mormon as well..no worries.

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#34
RE: You Are Going To Hell If You....
(February 23, 2012 at 11:31 pm)Forsaken Wrote: * eat fruit from a tree less than five years old. [Lev. 19:23]
* cross-breed animals. [Lev. 19:19]
* grow two different plants in your garden. [Lev. 19:19]
* wear a cotton-polyester blend T-Shirt. [Lev. 19:19]
* read your horoscope. [Lev. 19:26]
* consult a psychic. [Lev. 19:31]
* cut your hair. [Lev. 19:27]
* trim your beard. [Lev. 19:27]
* are tatooed. [Lev. 19:28]
* plant crops for more than seven years. [Lev. 25:4, Ex. 23:10-13]
* bear a grudge. [Lev. 19:17]
* collect interest on a loan. [Ex. 22:24]
* insult a leader. [Ex. 22:27]
* mistreat a foreigner. [Ex. 22:21, 23:9]
* spread false rumors. [Ex. 23:1]
* drive a Mercury. [Ex. 23:13]

Source:
http://www.angelfire.com/on4/calebhamer/index.html

One word: metaphor.
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#35
RE: You Are Going To Hell If You....
(February 24, 2012 at 1:38 am)Godschild Wrote: Yes, if you do not know Christ as your savior. No matter how bad or how good one may be without Christ as your savior hell is the last stop.

In other words, god doesn't give a flying fuck whether you're good or bad. Just as long as you stroke his oversized ego you get to go to this 'heaven'.

Pathetic god isn't he. Bit of a joke really.
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Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

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#36
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Metaphors for what, pray tell? Looks cut and dry to me.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#37
RE: You Are Going To Hell If You....
Let's do the apologetics dance: That part of the bible was metaphorical; you're taking it out of context; that was the old covenant which was abolished when Jesus died on the cross (except for the ten commandments and the part about gays being an abomination); you're not reading those passages correctly; there was a different translation for some of the words in those passages which mean something else.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#38
RE: You Are Going To Hell If You....
(February 24, 2012 at 1:38 am)Godschild Wrote:
(February 23, 2012 at 11:31 pm)Forsaken Wrote: * eat fruit from a tree less than five years old. [Lev. 19:23]
* cross-breed animals. [Lev. 19:19]
* grow two different plants in your garden. [Lev. 19:19]
* wear a cotton-polyester blend T-Shirt. [Lev. 19:19]
* read your horoscope. [Lev. 19:26]
* consult a psychic. [Lev. 19:31]
* cut your hair. [Lev. 19:27]
* trim your beard. [Lev. 19:27]
* are tatooed. [Lev. 19:28]
* plant crops for more than seven years. [Lev. 25:4, Ex. 23:10-13]
* bear a grudge. [Lev. 19:17]
* collect interest on a loan. [Ex. 22:24]
* insult a leader. [Ex. 22:27]
* mistreat a foreigner. [Ex. 22:21, 23:9]
* spread false rumors. [Ex. 23:1]
* drive a Mercury. [Ex. 23:13]

Source:
http://www.angelfire.com/on4/calebhamer/index.html

Yes, if you do not know Christ as your savior. No matter how bad or how good one may be without Christ as your savior hell is the last stop.

I have to agree with GC on this one. Going to hell has absolutely NOTHING to do with works and everything to do with faith. If you havent accepted Jesus, then you will burn regardless of how moral or immoral you act. Same with those who believe, as long as you have accepted Jesus into your heart, it no longer matters what you do. You WILL be forgiven as long as you ask Jesus to forgive you.

Making lists like this is not necessary...as one can easily add anything to it:

List of things that will get you sent into hell:

- Saving a child from a rapist while not being saved
- Feeding the hungry and homeless while not being saved
- defending the homeland while not being saved
- Murdering someone while not being saved

etc...etc...

Here is a list of things you can do and still avoid Hell:

- Raping and murdering a child while being saved
- Creating poverty and homelessness while being saved
- Being a traitor to the homeland while being saved
- Murdering someone while being saved

Get it?
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#39
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Those mitzvahs only applied to Hebrew people. Gentiles are governed by the seven laws of Noah.
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#40
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(March 2, 2012 at 11:36 am)CriticalThinker Wrote:
(February 23, 2012 at 11:31 pm)Forsaken Wrote: * eat fruit from a tree less than five years old. [Lev. 19:23]
* cross-breed animals. [Lev. 19:19]
* grow two different plants in your garden. [Lev. 19:19]
* wear a cotton-polyester blend T-Shirt. [Lev. 19:19]
* read your horoscope. [Lev. 19:26]
* consult a psychic. [Lev. 19:31]
* cut your hair. [Lev. 19:27]
* trim your beard. [Lev. 19:27]
* are tatooed. [Lev. 19:28]
* plant crops for more than seven years. [Lev. 25:4, Ex. 23:10-13]
* bear a grudge. [Lev. 19:17]
* collect interest on a loan. [Ex. 22:24]
* insult a leader. [Ex. 22:27]
* mistreat a foreigner. [Ex. 22:21, 23:9]
* spread false rumors. [Ex. 23:1]
* drive a Mercury. [Ex. 23:13]

Source:
http://www.angelfire.com/on4/calebhamer/index.html

One word: metaphor.

Yes?
And how do you know what is metaphorical and what is literal in the bible?
(March 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Those mitzvahs only applied to Hebrew people. Gentiles are governed by the seven laws of Noah.

Wow, aren't you wrong....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח‎ Sheva mitzvot B'nei Noach) form the major part of the Noachide Laws, or Noahide Code.[1] This code is a set of moral imperatives that, according to the Talmud, were given by God[2] as a binding set of laws for the "children of Noah" – that is, all of humankind.[3][4] According to religious Judaism, any non-Jew who lives according to these laws is regarded as a Righteous Gentile, and is assured of a place in the world to come (Olam Haba), the final reward of the righteous.[5][6] Adherents are often called "B'nei Noach" (Children of Noah) or "Noahides" and may often network in Jewish synagogues.[citation needed]
And if driving this

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Gets you sent to hell it's worth itBig Grin
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If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
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