Are Christians Stupid Or Just Ignorant and Delusional?
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Are Christians Stupid Or Just Ignorant and Delusional?
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 (March 5, 2012 at 10:48 am)ChadWooters Wrote: By internal reality I mean subjective experience. This starts with qualia and culminates in self-awareness. The proof that it is exists is the immediate and privileged access you have to your own inner life. So the "evidence" you are providing can only be seen as such by you, and is not accessible to anyone else? I fail to see how that is evidence. 
Indoctrinated.
We'd agree that a belief in unicorns was irrational but what if we were raised in a society where people were taught from childhood to believe in unicorns, that we were bad people if we didn't believe in unicorns, where our social activity was centered once a week around a gathering a the Church of the Sacred Unicorn? Then it wouldn't be stupid or delusional, it would be a matter of social indoctrination.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist  (March 5, 2012 at 10:53 am)picto90 Wrote:(March 5, 2012 at 10:48 am)ChadWooters Wrote: By internal reality I mean subjective experience. This starts with qualia and culminates in self-awareness. The proof that it is exists is the immediate and privileged access you have to your own inner life. Are you saying that you do not feel pain or see colors? RE: Are Christians Stupid Or Just Ignorant and Delusional?
March 5, 2012 at 5:06 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 5:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
"Internal reality" has a much more common name Chad. Fantasy. If your "subjective experience of reality" does not match up to the guy next to you, then either you, he, or both are mistaken in some particular. More arguments, still no evidence (and again...the arguments are tired).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Next time you are at the doctor tell him to skip the anesthesia since your pain will be just a fantasy.
RE: Are Christians Stupid Or Just Ignorant and Delusional?
March 5, 2012 at 6:35 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 6:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It can sometimes be just that, que the barracks joke with an ice cold iron. My relative level of pain has a few more factors to it than some "subjective experience of reality".
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (February 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm)Xavier Wrote: Obviously there are Christians who have extremely high IQs and do work high up in the fields like science. How is it stupid to believe? As mere humans we truly know nothing for shure. You can't say for sure that the sun will rise tomorrow. Does that mean it's a good idea to sell your farm to get as much money as possible before plants can't grow anymore? 
No, we can make a reasonable prediction that the sun will reappear because the earth is still spinning and has been spinning, and we have evidence that it will probably continue for a long, long...LONG time yet.
God doesn't have such a great track record. ![[Image: Untitled2_zpswaosccbr.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1140.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn569%2Fthesummerqueen%2FUntitled2_zpswaosccbr.png) RE: Are Christians Stupid Or Just Ignorant and Delusional?
March 5, 2012 at 10:25 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 10:29 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We can't say for sure that the sun will rise tomorrow but you're sure your god exists? Well, color me unimpressed.
(is this heretic talking about plants summer....-blood boils-)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 Quote:As mere humans we truly know nothing for shure. The proper spelling of the word "sure," for example. |
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