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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 27, 2012 at 6:50 pm
(February 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: [quote='Chuck' pid='245747' dateline='1330372195']
I think globalization and internet are not the real causes, because those things works both ways. It may enable the less uneducated to teach themselves the gaps in their theology, but it also enable greedy churches to more cheaply reach out to the more uneducated around the world. I think the proximal cause is many evengelical churches, lusting after easy conquest amongst the most retarded and uneducated in the US and around the world, overplayed the chrismatic and wealth gasple parts, and became repulsive to the less uneducated portions of its former constituecy.
Yeah, you're right, things do work both ways. The internet is used heavily in churches and Christian organizations. Any believer who does any research on the internet needs to have a hefty brain filter to filter out the lies of Satin *note sarcasm* these days, but they seem to do it.
Believe it or not churches used to be better at putting the fear of Satin and his deception into the congregation. Now these mega churches preach the feel good gospel and there appears to be an increasing number of people who are oddly brainwashed not to think much about what they believe or don't believe. It doesn't occur to them to be critical. I suppose this is supposed to be a good thing, but I'm not too sure of this. It seems like this sort of brainwashing produces sheeple who attend church and vote for any idiot who calls his or herself a Christian.
These people kind of coast through life. They don't need to make any big decisions about what they believe or don't believe because the church is pretty permissive. I went to a bible study with someone who was openly living with someone she was not married to. This would not have been acceptable a few decades ago. In mega churches it's hard to get to know people. There exists very little accountability. I bet you could be an axe murder in one of those churches and no one would know it. When it comes to accountability, What churches seem to care about is if you quit donating or if you are becoming an atheist, the rest isn't that big of a deal.
Quote:I think the internet had a lot to do with the rise of Atheism. Many atheists I have met have said they came to skepticism on their own, but that the net really did help them reach atheism. It helped me become an atheist
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com
I have to agree with you on that one. If someone is looking, he or she can find not only a plethora of available information but also forums, meet up groups, self help groups etc.
Personally I do blame the people on this forum for pushing me into atheism *the deceiving scum that you are, lol*. Yes, I would have gotten there on my own eventually but, after talking out the issues, I had to either deal with the facts or deal with the fact that I wasn't choosing to deal with the facts. The latter of which would have caused too much cognitive dissonance for me. Also I was able to come across information that I might not have found on my own due to the outporing of vile blasphemous filth that emanates from this place.  hock:
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 27, 2012 at 6:51 pm
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No shit? For some reason I thought you were an atheist when you walked in the door.
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 27, 2012 at 7:09 pm
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(February 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I think the internet had a lot to do with the rise of Atheism. Many atheists I have met have said they came to skepticism on their own, but that the net really did help them reach atheism. It helped me become an atheist
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com
Likewise. I've identified as atheist most of my life.
Most of that time... I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about until I started THINKING.
Internet gave me the tools to apply my thinking, and find the answers to the questions I had.
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 27, 2012 at 9:47 pm
When you consider how fast information is multiplying, how available it is and how popular digital devices are among young people it isn't surprising that fundies are finding it hard to keep them down on the farm. My religious cousin home schools her kids in order to control what ideas they come into contact with. Of course she is just as afraid of what textbooks and teachers may say as she is of their would-be peers. The gap widens ever further and faster between those who try to step away from the modern world and the rest of us.
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 28, 2012 at 8:33 am
Answer: "They dont want their future children raped?"
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 28, 2012 at 8:36 am
Evangelical Christianity has nothing to offer them??
Just saying. 
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 28, 2012 at 8:57 am
Answer: "They actually appreciate intelligent discussion?"
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 28, 2012 at 1:40 pm
Well, really, I think it has a lot to do with the younger generations being the least religious of any which has come before. Why this is has probably a lot to do with rejecting all the old traditional beliefs and being dragged to boring church services, not to mention that conservative Christians tend to be way out of touch with society at large. I mean, they're still trying to control people's sex lives if their poster boy Santorum is any indication, while young people rightly see nothing wrong with recreational but safe sex. Add to this easy access to information that the internet offers, and it's easy for people who are having doubts of faith to find websites with information which shows that what's being preached from the pulpit every Sunday isn't the truth. I think without the internet this information would be a lot harder to come by. Not only that, but they soon realize that they're not alone in their disbelief and don't feel like they have to just keep going along with it. They can live as an atheist without feeling like they're the only one.
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm
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Yeah they used to hide all this stuff in places called "Libraries". Apparently you had to be able to both read and count to use them..elitists. 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Article: "Why Are Young People Leaving Evangelical Christianity?"
February 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Makes me wonder when evangelicals will come out with a browser that will block out anything they don't want their flock to see.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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