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Bible contradictions?
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 (March 9, 2012 at 12:57 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: I can explain all the problems away easily. Yep. Ceiling Cat.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (March 8, 2012 at 10:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The problem of getting all the animals to the Middle East isn't half as bad as getting them from the Ararat region to all the different parts of the world we find them today without leaving any trace of their respective journeys. Moreover, there is the question of why particular species (or kinds or whatever label you think works) occupying broadly similar climates chose to stop off in one country instead of another. For example, why are there no panthers to be found in Africa, nor lions in South America? Presumably their Noachian ancestors would have had to pass through the one continent to get to the other, if only in part. Then there's Australia with an ecosystem all its own; presumably all the marsupials which inhabit the particular niches taken up by non-marsupials in every other country had to travel all the way to their continent en masse without leaving behind any traces anywhere else in the world. Not only that but they just happened to be exactly the right creatures to fill the available niches when they got there. What I really want to know is what happened to all the animal shit (disregarding the 8 humans aboard)? 
Forgive me if this has been posted already, but while it isn't directly pointing out a contradiction, I think it is important to bring a historiographical perspective to this matter of bible contradictions. As most anyone who has actually engaged in serious textual criticism of the bible is probably aware, the historicity of many parts (most importantly the canonical gospels) is already suspect, for example due to authorship (Matthew seemingly derived from Mark, etc.), the testimony vs. testimonial distinction, etc. As such, if the bible is to be established as reliable evidence for the literal historical truth of some of Christianity's core claims (such as the resurrection, the very existence of Jesus, etc.), certain other parts are going to have to be ditched.
If two accounts of such and such event from two different texts contradict each other, sure, it may be logically possible to reconcile them, but in doing so one compromises whatever plausible historicity either text had, as one is now claiming the truth of an event distinct from that in either text. Note that this is distinct from constructing a more accurate account of events from multiple different testimonies, because in that circumstance the likely historicity of all the various sources is already established, and constructing a version of events that is somewhere in between those in the different testimonies is the only logical conclusion. But if the historicity of the texts is in question, we are only making things worse by trying to "resolve" apparent contradictions. It's the fundamentalist attitude on proud display. One is so obsessed with the notion that the bible is perfect and literally true that one is willing to sacrifice whatever legitimate claims to historical authority the texts have.  (March 9, 2012 at 9:25 am)Phil Wrote: What I really want to know is what happened to all the animal shit (disregarding the 8 humans aboard)? GodFlushedIt
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  (March 7, 2012 at 5:58 pm)chipan Wrote: God dwells outside time and doesnt have a begining or an end. How can something exist with no time to exist in? To me, your statement sounds a lot like "god does not exist" You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. (March 9, 2012 at 2:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(March 7, 2012 at 5:58 pm)chipan Wrote: God dwells outside time and doesnt have a begining or an end. Funny that, the retarded godboy chiaretard has no idea that if as he says god is atemporal then he is not existent in space which means his omnipresence is false. Damn, accepting evolution yesterday and this today. Your armor cracking? C'mon over and have a baby burger. ![[Image: baby_20burger.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.jonco48.com%2Fblog%2Fbaby_20burger.jpg)
 RE: Bible contradictions?
March 9, 2012 at 2:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2012 at 2:40 pm by Minimalist.)
Quote:One is so obsessed with the notion that the bible is perfect and literally true that one is willing to sacrifice whatever legitimate claims to historical authority the texts have. I call that the "thick as shit" mantra, Val. And the fundies always have it on display.
I found a massive contradiction between the bible.. and the real world..
 (March 9, 2012 at 2:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(March 7, 2012 at 5:58 pm)chipan Wrote: God dwells outside time and doesnt have a begining or an end. Anything unchanging is eternal and therefore outside of time (All the philosophy classes I ever took came to that conclusion without ever mentioning God). Time has an elusive definition. People measure it in many ways, from progress to the vibration of molecules. Since God is not made of physical material, he can't change. Most scientists say time and space did not exist before our universe. That means its cause transcends time and space. Outside our universe, eternity exists. Or are you saying our universe is all there is, and it was caused by nothing? |
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