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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 1:58 pm
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Their interpretation of islam was warped, therefore, despite calling themselves muslims, they were not muslims. I'm not sure what you want. Do you want to see theism eradicated? It's quite a tall order don't you think? People have free will and so you can never do it.
(March 11, 2012 at 1:56 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yep, there we go, your juvenile attempts to create derision where there is none have completely and utterly failed. You failed to squeeze even a simple point out of the exchange, and just generally made yourself look like a complete ass. So, business as usual?
Pro-tip, passive aggressive conversations don't have much of an impact on me, there are five women to every one male in my family. :wink:
My condolences.
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It would be a start, yes. But, people will have to do so on their own. Their interpretation of islam was true, no sense arguing against their beliefs and for the beliefs of others. They are all equally un-evidenced. People claim to believe this or that, who am I to call them a liar eh? Who are you?
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm
I can't see it ever happening. I think there will always be theists in some form or another.
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm
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Is that a wish of yours? There is only a fraction of our total pool of gods remaining today. The trend is towards less. So, millions down, a handful to go. I call that progress.
(admittedly the religious have helped immensely in this regard, handling what would be unthinkable for me, exterminating those with faiths different than their own left right and center)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:02 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 2:03 pm by Werewolff.)
I wouldn't say a wish, but I think it's great to have diversity. Do you wish to have the whole world agree with your point of view?
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:03 pm
(March 11, 2012 at 1:58 pm)Werewolff Wrote: Their interpretation of islam was warped, therefore, despite calling themselves muslims, they were not muslims.
If there was no religion, 9/11 would not have happened. Fact is, they were so brainwashed by their religion that they willingly gave their lives up to a made up paradise, killing 3,000 people in the process.
Quote: I'm not sure what you want. Do you want to see theism eradicated?
Yes.
Quote: It's quite a tall order don't you think?
Yes.
Quote: People have free will and so you can never do it.
Free will in itself will end up defeating theism, over a number of generations. The percentage of free thinking atheists grows in each generation - these atheists spawn children etc etc
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2012 at 2:07 pm by NoMoreFaith.)
(March 11, 2012 at 1:28 pm)Werewolff Wrote: Your argument is a bit like saying that football hooligans are true fans, and represent all fans.
Who said anything about "True" and "Represent". Naughty inferring meaning where there is none.
A football hooligan is a fan. Nothing more and nothing less. What you can't say is that they are not a fan, because they do things you don't like.
I will not appreciate deliberate misrepresentation of views.
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm
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No, but I'd rather have the whole world accept reality for what it is, rather than inventing cosmic enablers to excuse whatever terrible shit they are already determined to do (in addition to all the other wonderful uses for manufactured deities).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:09 pm
(March 11, 2012 at 2:03 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: (March 11, 2012 at 1:58 pm)Werewolff Wrote: Their interpretation of islam was warped, therefore, despite calling themselves muslims, they were not muslims.
If there was no religion, 9/11 would not have happened. Fact is, they were so brainwashed by their religion that they willingly gave their lives up to a made up paradise, killing 3,000 people in the process.
Quote: I'm not sure what you want. Do you want to see theism eradicated?
Yes.
Quote: It's quite a tall order don't you think?
Yes.
Quote: People have free will and so you can never do it.
Free will in itself will end up defeating theism, over a number of generations. The percentage of free thinking atheists grows in each generation - these atheists spawn children etc etc
Aaah yes, the dream. Good luck with that. It'll happen any minute now.
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RE: Another atheist here
March 11, 2012 at 2:09 pm
(March 11, 2012 at 1:58 pm)Werewolff Wrote: Their interpretation of islam was warped, therefore, despite calling themselves muslims, they were not muslims.
Philosophy failure. Their interpretation was warped? Who are YOU to say they are actually wrong, in any greater capacity than the million other interpretations.
By your view, there is no such thing as a christian, because they all have different interpretations of aspects of christianity which may be wrong.
Silly.
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