On Catholicism

[WWLD]

Christian as in like non Catholic Christians or Christian because you were a Catholic WWLD?

Christian because I was Catholic

Catholics ARE Christians, but not all Christians are Catholic.

It's just another denomination, like Baptist or Methodist.

All follow Christ, and that's what makes them a christian

[Kyuuketsuki]

Catholics ARE Christians, but not all Christians are Catholic

Ahhhh! I remember sets and subsets from my school days oh so long ago

Kyu

[fr0d0]

Christian as in like non Catholic Christians or Christian because you were a Catholic WWLD?

Oh sorry fr0d0. I misunderstood this statement I believe (although the way it is/was phrased it still confuses me).

You were/are asking whether she at the time considered non-Catholic Christians to also be Christians or only Catholics like herself is that right?

I think it's because more correctly it should be Christian as in ANY christian Non-Catholic AND Catholic OR Catholic only. Because I don't know why a Catholic would consider themselves to be Christian as in a 'non Catholic Christian' if they ARE Catholic ( a Catholic Christian). Perhaps that's what confused me :S

Apologies for my misunderstanding anyways.

EvF

No, I meant did she think she was a Catholic, which 'of course' meant you were a Christian, or a Christian as would be viewed by non Catholics, which if you'd studied protestant Christianity might be quite different. From WWLD's answer I would assume option 1. You?

[Edwardo Piet]

Ah you mean did she think of herself (sorry I'm still having a little trouble understanding here) as a 'Catholic Christian' or simply a 'Christian' despite she was specifically 'Catholic' like IOW: 'was the 'Catholic' part import to her?'

?

EvF

[fr0d0]

No LOL

I don't think Catholics are interested in anything outside there own little worlds. What protestants say is of little or no interest. It's a sideline to what they already know is the best - their own indoctrination

If a Catholic was aware of what it meant to be a protestant christian then I think it'd add more credence to their statement of belief. Baptists (washed) understand Methodists (unwashed), but that isn't the same for Catholics. They feel they're 'superior', for want of a better word, and are happy to be ignorant. This is dangerous given the age old flaws, but that's another subject.

[Edwardo Piet]

Ok...well I still don't know what you meant I think lol. I can interpret it in like 2 or 3 different ways LOL.

Not as bad as the bible I guess tho lol

EvF

[Mandi]

Catholics aren't Christians? I'm slightly confused as to why you would think that. I'll agree that Catholicism is indeed a strange form of Christianity. Strange in the respect that is seems to determine whether a person is a Christian or not depending on if they attend masses regularly, go to confession, ect. Not on the true parts of being a Christian (i.e. having good morals, believing in the Bible, ect.). I know this because I was Catholic. Even though I am no longer a Christian, the Catholic Church is most definitely incorrect (assuming that the Bible is correct). It is a pretty screwed up religion any way you slice it. All religions stemmed from it.

[Edwardo Piet]

It is of course still Christianity. Because Catholics still follow and believe in Jesus Christ.

EvF

[fr0d0]

Another angle...

Say you had reforms like with the Social Services department at Harringay Council in the uk recently (a vry sad child abuse case highlighted the shortcomings in procedures)(let's pretend this was a black and white case). The department underwent changes brought about by review and now operate differently, and one would hope effectively.

Now consider the reformation. Martin Luther pointed out the severe shortcomings in what the Catholic church had become. From this a new church was born, and is known as the protestant church. This was no small protest. It was extremely severe and far reaching.

So the church had to change to get back to what they were about in the first place. The reform facilitated this.

Some people refused to be reformed and went on in the same old way. After all a lot of money and power were yours if you carried on in your old corrupt ways. From the 4th Century (this was the 16th) the church had gone severely astray making secular allegiances to gain that power and wealth which lead to times of stark contrast with actual Christian values.