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Current time: December 26, 2024, 8:29 pm

Poll: Where do you stand?
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Left (liberal, anarchist, communist, socialist)
51.85%
14 51.85%
Centre (mixed views)
40.74%
11 40.74%
Right (fascist, statist, etc)
7.41%
2 7.41%
Total 27 vote(s) 100%
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Poll to see where you stand!
#11
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
You should combine all the "conservative" options into fascist.
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#12
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
No, Fascism is authoritarian. How do you explain classical liberals and anarcho capitalists or right libertarians who are individualists? By your logic I can label you, and anarcho syndicalist, a communist.
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#13
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
I've never come across an anarcho capitalist / libertarian who wasn't secretly a fascist. It's not easy to tell sometimes, because they cover up their true beliefs with a load of "freedom" rhetoric, but once you grill them on some tough issues, their true sides emerge. Anarcho capitalism would lead to the rich oppressing the poor, and the coporations would seize control of government and create their own fascist state. Same would happen with liberatrianism (which is basically anarcho capitalism but with a coporation loving government already in place).

I don't mind being called a communist. It isn't true, but I share a load of values with them. The left can be subdivided into lots of different categories, because that is where all political development over the last 300 years has happened. The right has stayed the same; fascist as ever, but has just changed name a few times (fascism, nazism, conservatism, etc).
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#14
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
You see no contradiction stating that being called a communist isn't true, but your assertion that all conservatives are fascists IS true.

Hmm....Thinking

EDIT: I'm being a bit rude actually, I do probably share much of your views, just I dislike blind assertion.
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#15
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
(March 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Normally, I wouldn't classify myself as anything, but I guess I'm somewhere in the centre, I guess.

As a panturkist you are a bona fide fascist, mehmet.
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#16
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
(March 12, 2012 at 3:42 pm)Atheist Anarchist Wrote: You should combine all the "conservative" options into fascist.

LOL...as much as I agree with you, you will not get many people to vote on it.

Big Grin
(March 12, 2012 at 4:30 pm)Rokcet Scientist Wrote:
(March 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Normally, I wouldn't classify myself as anything, but I guess I'm somewhere in the centre, I guess.

As a panturkist you are a bona fide fascist, mehmet.

Of course he is... I thought we already had that settled on this site? LOL.
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#17
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
No, he isn't, because he doesn't like the word facist, because it isn't a turkish word....He's already explained this.
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#18
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
(March 12, 2012 at 3:12 pm)Atheist Anarchist Wrote: Sorry, the things in brackets are only examples. It doesn't apply to everything. The left / right / centre model is pretty simplistic, but it works for most people.

So just vote for where your example would go (socialists vote left, as do liberals).

I'm polar south. South-central.

I am an anarchist, and you've noted anarchism as being solely of the left.

* Violet disagrees.
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#19
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
I'm a pluralist, which [to me] means I take whatever I think will work to produce the greater good. The labels 'left' 'right' and 'centre' are irrelevant to me,except as a shorthand to describe certain kinds of loon. EG Creationists, Libertarians,etc,etc. Tongue
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#20
RE: Poll to see where you stand!
(March 13, 2012 at 1:28 am)padraic Wrote: I'm a pluralist, which [to me] means I take whatever I think will work to produce the greater good. The labels 'left' 'right' and 'centre' are irrelevant to me,except as a shorthand to describe certain kinds of loon. EG Creationists, Libertarians,etc,etc. Tongue

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I'm sorry ...I don't pick "sides"

If I am on a "side" it is the side of Human advancement which has no place for religion.
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