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The question that shatters faith, forever.
#51
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
Who are you trying to convince?
"If Christianity is untrue, then no honest man will want to believe it, however helpful it might be; if it is true, every honest man will want to believe it, even if it gives him no help at all."
C. S. Lewis - Essay, Man or Rabbit.
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#52
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
(March 20, 2012 at 8:22 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Oh just wait until you discover just how OLD those "stories are" guys!! They go back a long long way and have nothing to do with this fantasy you cling to.

But like good little sheep you WILL cling to what you are told and obey, like good little mindless slaves that you are and not even THINK to look outside your precious religion to find out anything.

I wish the myth of Heracles/Hercules was still around. That guy sounds amazing! And his dad Zeus... very catchy name!
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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#53
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
It still is, silly and the myth is amazing..clearly a demonstration of the imaginative powers of the human mind. Quite Entertaining too Big Grin
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#54
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
Funny how the fact that Jesus probably never existed and his "life" was based on older stories won't shake the faith of the true believers. Just shows how they're blindly clinging to faith like a small child grasping his security blankie.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#55
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
(March 20, 2012 at 11:20 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Funny how the fact that Jesus probably never existed and his "life" was based on older stories won't shake the faith of the true believers. Just shows how they're blindly clinging to faith like a small child grasping his security blankie.

It just never crosses their minds that it's a possibility. The first time someone told me he was a myth I nearly died of laughter.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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#56
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
It didn't even take that for me to confirm my atheism. It was the numerous times in the bible where Jesus told people that his second coming and the end of the world would happen in their lifetimes. It wasn't until later that I started to seriously doubt Jesus as an actual person actually existed.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#57
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
(March 20, 2012 at 8:15 am)Hunter9035 Wrote: Sorry it's going to take a LOT more than that to even shake my faith



http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interrupted-...0061173932


But you're too chickenshit to read it.
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#58
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
(March 20, 2012 at 8:15 am)Hunter9035 Wrote: Sorry it's going to take a LOT more than that to even shake my faith

If you are a human rather than a monkey, then you would never had any idiotic faith in need of shaking in the first place.


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#59
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
(March 20, 2012 at 2:54 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Question. Can you show me how we can conclude that e.g. Matthew did infact write his own gospel? Here's food for thought as well. Scholars say Matthew was written after Mark
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Would you be too upset if you found out the book of Mathew wasn't written by anyone named Mathew at all??
In the Hebrew account of the book Authorship is accredited to one Mathias. (Funny how champions of the faith got western/anglo names and the rest like Judas got to keep their given names)

My point is that if you are so involved in the division of scripture as to take on the responsibility for it's content then you have missed the Whole point in which the bible was written, And all of the Gospel contained in those pages.

The God of the bible is responsible for it's content. not us. For if we set out to worship Him following the only book He has provided and make a mistake then it is Up to Him to have made a change (Like with the finding of the dead sea scrolls) or to simply forgive our earnest efforts built on passages that only He can consider to be in error.

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#60
RE: The question that shatters faith, forever.
Quote:There are various historical references to him

Indeed, a great many. However, there is not one contemporary reference to Jesus. The earliest are writings attributed to the probably at least two writers Christians call Paul of Tarsus. From ca 50-60 CE,about 25 years after Jesus' death.Paul never met Jesus, his conversion was after Jesus ' death .(the famous and terribly convenient epiphany on the road to Damascus)
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