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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 5:44 pm
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(March 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm)Hunter9035 Wrote: See what I mean, I never said possession and you heard demons and thought exorcist. Deliverance is NOT exorcism. Demons cannot posess a saved person.
Nor an unsaved person. Nor anyone. Thats the point. There is no evidence for their existence at all.
(March 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm)Hunter9035 Wrote: ... you could use the authority of Jesus Christ to summon your demons to reveal themselves in His name and see if anything manifests but with no faith in a higher power to protect you that's a dangerous game to play. That said, if you do, please explain what you experienced.
Remember this. You brought demons up, and suggested it was dangerous to invoke them in the name of Jesus Christ.
So what was the point of that post?
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm
(March 20, 2012 at 5:34 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: Where does it describe this 'Deliverence' ritual you talk about?
I think it has something to do with squealing like a pig.
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Hunter9035 Wrote:See what I mean, I never said possession and you heard demons and thought exorcist. Deliverance is NOT exorcism. Demons cannot posess a saved person.
Deliverance, exorcism, it doesn't really matter distinguishing between methods of ridding a non-existent entity. It's all hokum.
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 6:39 pm
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Mark 16:17 or whole chapter for context. Just one example
You have no evidence I exist either but you're still talking to me lol
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 6:51 pm
(March 20, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Hunter9035 Wrote: Mark 16:17 or whole chapter for context. Just one example
You have no evidence I exist either but you're still talking to me lol
Yes but you have evidence that you exist and we can easily check it out if you give us that evidence.
See, real things, you can always demonstrate them.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 6:51 pm
(March 20, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Hunter9035 Wrote: Mark 16:17 or whole chapter for context. Just one example
You have no evidence I exist either but you're still talking to me lol
Hunter;why exactly are you quoting scripture at a bunch of atheists?
I'd be fascinated to see you engage your cerebral cortex. Why not give it a go? Who knows,you might even enjoy the experience. If not,you can replace head up arse and continue as before. 
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 6:55 pm
When one of your senior members referred me here he said most of you were pretty intelligent. I've been greatly disappointed thus far. Wow
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 6:57 pm
That's right, start insulting our intelligence...way to save us.
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 7:02 pm
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I'm starting to think my first instinct was correct and she is a Poe. I mean... C'mon!
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RE: Differentiating a religious experience/including hallucinations from a psyc disorder
March 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm
And why do you think I'm here to save you :/
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