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THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
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THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

There are various types of religions in existence with their own sacred books called bibles. As a result, many people believe that all religions are valid and that they are simply different roads to the same place. Along that line, many feel that no type of religion can lay claim to which type of religious bible is really the word of God. For instance, Muslims claim the Koran is the correct bible, while Christians claim the Judeo-Christian Bible is the right one.

The difference between the Judeo-Christian Bible and other religious books is that there is EVIDENCE showing the Judeo-Christian Bible was inspired by Almighty God. No other religious book has been able to prove such. For instance, hundreds of Bible prophesies have been fulfilled, some written centuries before the fulfillment of the prophesied events. Secular history and archeology bears this out. In addition, Bible writers were privy to information that was not discovered by scientists and explorers until centuries later. Below are two such examples.

Example #1: For a period of time in history, humans thought the earth was flat and that if one sailed too far out to sea, one was likely to sail off the earth. By the 15th Century when Christopher Columbus claimed he discovered the new world, most Europeans correctly theorized that the earth is a circle or sphere. However, it was not until after Columbus literally sailed around the globe that this theory was proven as fact. More than 2,000 years before Christopher Columbus sailed around the globe, the prophet Isaiah did not merely theorize but stated that the earth is a circle. Isaiah was inspired by God to write:


"{22} There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gaze, who spread them out like a tent in which to dwell, {28} Have you not come to know or have you not heard? Jehovah, the Creator of the extremities of the earth, is a God to time indefinite. He does not tire out or grow weary. There is no searching out of his understanding." (Isaiah 40:22 and 28)

SIDE NOTE: Circles can be 2D (flat) or 3D (an ORB or a SPHERE)


Example #2: Prior to the 17th century, none of the best scientific minds could explain what causes the earth to be positioned in a stable orbit. Then in 1687, Isaac Newton published his theory that gravitational forces are the explanation behind the earth's stability. (Gravity is also the reason why humans can move around without fear of toppling off the earth into space.) More than 3,000 years before Newton's existence, under divine inspiration Moses wrote that the earth hangs upon nothing (indicating gravity), as follows:


"He [God] is stretching out the north over the empty place, hanging the earth upon nothing;..." (Job 26:7)


DISCUSSION QUESTIONS:
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How could Isaiah have known that the earth is circular, considering that the writing of the book of Isaiah was completed in 732 B.C.E. and Christopher Columbus did not make his first journey across the Atlantic until 1492 AD/CE or 2,224 years AFTER Isaiah wrote that the earth is a circle?

http://www.history.com/topics/christopher-columbus


2. How did Job know that the earth hangs upon nothing--indicating gravity--considering that the book of Job was completed in 1473 B.C.E. and it wasn't until 1687 AD/CE that Isaac Newton published his theory about gravitational forces--3,160 years AFTER Moses wrote that the earth hangs upon nothing?
http://inventors.about.com/library/i...s/blnewton.htm


3. Where did Isaiah and Moses get this info?
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
Quote:The difference between the Judeo-Christian Bible and other religious books is that there is EVIDENCE showing the Judeo-Christian Bible was inspired by Almighty God.

Evidence? Yes indeed there is,but evidence is not a synonym for proof. The Torah is the [ at least partially plagiarised] mythology of an insignificant tribe of bronze age goat herders. That mythology is neither credible evidence nor proof any of the claims you have made.

In case the name was not enough of a hint,this is an ATHEIST FORUM. That means most people here do not believe in gods. (theists are allowed,over my objections) IF you want to claim something was inspired by a god,you need first to establish (prove) the existence of that god. So far, not one person in recorded history has managed that task.

PS Abraham and Mose are almost certainly both mythical figures.
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
(April 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm)Alter2Ego Wrote: The difference between the Judeo-Christian Bible and other religious books is that there is EVIDENCE showing the Judeo-Christian Bible was inspired by Almighty God. No other religious book has been able to prove such.

Your statement makes the massive assumption that the God of the bible is a fact and based upon that 'fact' the bible must be the inspired word of God because it says so.

Before you make statements such as this and especially if you are going to capitalise the word EVIDENCE you must first successfully demonstrate beyond all reasonable doubt and to a very high scientific standard the the God of the bible is a real entity otherwise everything else that follows on from your premise can never be taken seriously.

I look forward to your evidence and congratulate you on your forthcoming Nobel prize.
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
A little experiment ...


There is definitely EVIDENCE that the legendary Sasquatch of North America exists. A LOT of people have seen him..

Does my capitalization, bold face, and color change of the word evidence convince you of this fact??? I no longer have to provide any now right ?



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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
Gravity = Nothing. Logic Clap
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
I'm beginning to think it's just here to flood the forum with preaching. Save time and ban it now.
Religion is not the answer-it is the problem. Everything considered, we would be better off without it.~Baubles of Blasphemy~Edwin F. Kagin

"Much better to have the ability to think critically, than the ability to quote scripture. One says you have a functioning mind. The other says you're a parrot." -- The Secular Buddhist
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
(April 13, 2012 at 8:35 pm)Sciwoman Wrote: I'm beginning to think it's just here to flood the forum with preaching. Save time and ban it now.

Action has been taken. Banning may happen in addition. We'll see.
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
Thanks
Religion is not the answer-it is the problem. Everything considered, we would be better off without it.~Baubles of Blasphemy~Edwin F. Kagin

"Much better to have the ability to think critically, than the ability to quote scripture. One says you have a functioning mind. The other says you're a parrot." -- The Secular Buddhist
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
Since when has anyone described a circle as a sphere. Also, the hebrew word translated is never used in that context of a sphere.
Blimey, are you afraid an afternoon on wiki-fucking-pedia might enlighten you?

"1 Chronicles 16:30 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved."
Well, God fucked that one right up.

Seriously, picking out bits which can be stretched to match scientific fact is plain idiotic. Especially when you ignore all the other verses which continue the silliness.

If could write an essay on how wrong you are, but I suspect you're a hit and run gish gallop type poster.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

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The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
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RE: THE BIBLE: God’s Word or Man’s?
(April 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm)Alter2Ego Wrote: How could Isaiah have known that the earth is circular, considering that the writing of the book of Isaiah was completed in 732 B.C.E. and Christopher Columbus did not make his first journey across the Atlantic until 1492 AD/CE or 2,224 years AFTER Isaiah wrote that the earth is a circle?

You are prepared to prove when Isaiah (as well as Job) were written, of course? Bet you a dollar you can't produce any empirical evidence to support a claim that authorship was before.... (see next paragraph)

The ancient Greeks knew the earth was spherical (not circular) at least as early as the 6th century BCE. Europeans were Johnny-come-lately to the spherical earth party.

As for your other questions, let's dismantle one bullshit claim at a time, m'kay?

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