Communicating with Him

[fuckass365]

You know this how.

I was baptist for 15 years. I "felt god's presence" plenty of times.

You couldn't have, to you He does not exist.

I thought I did. If you believe it enough you will feel it. You're delusional and you don't even know it. My grandfather is a pastor and so is my uncle. I "heard god" tell me to become a pastor as well and even preached a handful of sermons to my youth group.

I believe that you did experience an emotional something, I do not and did not deny that. What I said, is that for you it could not have been from God, because you do not believe in Him. Just because you have family members who are pastors, that is no reason for God to call you into the ministry. God will only call the faithful, and seeing as you have come to deny Him, well, don't you think an omniscient God would have known what your future held.

This is such a cop out. I could apply the same "logic" to an atheist turned theist. Bitch please.

[Godscreated]

Yes I can say they were not a true christian, when they relate their Christian experience was phony, just like you. To have been an authentic Christian means that even though you changed your position, you would not deny that Christ is who he says He is. The arrogance falls on you brother, I'm just relating the truth, if it bothers you then quit reading my post.

This is the No True Scotsman fallacy again. Practically what you're saying is that a true Christian is one that will die a Christian. Is it also true that a true Christian's desires will be that of God's, that they will preach the Gospel through actions, that they will pray and also seek to better understand the Word (to name a few things)?

Yes mostly, as I said one could believe and then reject Christ yet not deny who He says He is. Yes, we should, but because of our humanity we fail more than we should.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Yes I can say they were not a true christian, when they relate their Christian experience was phony, just like you. To have been an authentic Christian means that even though you changed your position, you would not deny that Christ is who he says He is. The arrogance falls on you brother, I'm just relating the truth, if it bothers you then quit reading my post.

This is the No True Scotsman fallacy again. Practically what you're saying is that a true Christian is one that will die a Christian. Is it also true that a true Christian's desires will be that of God's, that they will preach the Gospel through actions, that they will pray and also seek to better understand the Word (to name a few things)?

Yes mostly, as I said one could believe and then reject Christ yet not deny who He says He is. Yes, we should, but because of our humanity we fail more than we should.

What's the difference between "rejecting" Christ and "denying" what he claims?

[Godscreated]

Nothing, I am able to tell when God speaks to me, I try to always separate my emotional feelings from my spiritual experiences.

And how do you know its not Satan deceiving you?

Satan would not have me doing the good work of God, if he did then I would be a witness for the good work of God. Thus a witness for God and Satan would not like that.

Christians must be careful about what they desire and what God really wants.

Stripping yourselves of desires? You lot sound more like Buddhists to me.

You should read the letters of Paul, by the way I did not say anything about Christians stripping themselves of all desires.

One thing a Christian can count on, God will almost always put them into something they are not comfortable with, I know this from experience.

Yeah maybe he's twat who likes putting people to the test? Or maybe he doesn't give two holy shits about you? You know, there's that possibility too.

He does put His people to the test, so what. He cares about His children very much, so no that's not a possibility. When God puts Christians into work that is uncomfortable for us He's teaching us that nothing is impossible with God. God shows us that He is giving us the ability to do things we though we could not. This is one way He proves Himself to us.

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I was baptist for 15 years. I "felt god's presence" plenty of times.

You couldn't have, to you He does not exist.

I thought I did. If you believe it enough you will feel it. You're delusional and you don't even know it. My grandfather is a pastor and so is my uncle. I "heard god" tell me to become a pastor as well and even preached a handful of sermons to my youth group.

I believe that you did experience an emotional something, I do not and did not deny that. What I said, is that for you it could not have been from God, because you do not believe in Him. Just because you have family members who are pastors, that is no reason for God to call you into the ministry. God will only call the faithful, and seeing as you have come to deny Him, well, don't you think an omniscient God would have known what your future held.

This is such a cop out. I could apply the same "logic" to an atheist turned theist. Bitch please.

There's no cop out here, you will have to explain why you believe it is.

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Yes I can say they were not a true christian, when they relate their Christian experience was phony, just like you. To have been an authentic Christian means that even though you changed your position, you would not deny that Christ is who he says He is. The arrogance falls on you brother, I'm just relating the truth, if it bothers you then quit reading my post.

This is the No True Scotsman fallacy again. Practically what you're saying is that a true Christian is one that will die a Christian. Is it also true that a true Christian's desires will be that of God's, that they will preach the Gospel through actions, that they will pray and also seek to better understand the Word (to name a few things)?

Yes mostly, as I said one could believe and then reject Christ yet not deny who He says He is. Yes, we should, but because of our humanity we fail more than we should.

What's the difference between "rejecting" Christ and "denying" what he claims?

A person could know that Christ was the Son of God and that through Him comes salvation, yet not accept what He did for them.

[FallentoReason]

Let me get something straight. What is a true Christian? Someone that does good works, believes in the Son of God, goes to church every sunday, loves on everyone, is born again (well depending on your denomination), believes in the trinity (depending on you denomination)?

[Godscreated]

Let me get something straight. What is a true Christian? Someone that does good works, believes in the Son of God, goes to church every sunday, loves on everyone, is born again (well depending on your denomination), believes in the trinity (depending on you denomination)?

A person who accepts Christ as their savior, believing He was born of a virgin, lived a perfect (sinless) life, was crucified for our sins and raised from the dead and sets at the right hand of the Father. A lot of the rest is opinion. One should be baptized, but this is not a requirement, the thief on the cross is proof of this.

[Welsh cake]

He does put His people to the test, so what.

Its wrong.

He cares about His children very much, so no that's not a possibility. When God puts Christians into work that is uncomfortable for us He's teaching us that nothing is impossible with God.

Can he create a god more powerful than himself?

No? Oh well I guess some things are impossible for him then.

[Godscreated]

He does put His people to the test, so what.

Its wrong.

What do you care He's not testing you. It's fine with me and that's all that matters, your opinion holds no water with God or me.

He cares about His children very much, so no that's not a possibility. When God puts Christians into work that is uncomfortable for us He's teaching us that nothing is impossible with God.

Can he create a god more powerful than himself?

No? Oh well I guess some things are impossible for him then.

Now you are being childish, something I find many atheist have in common.

[fuckass365]

Could he create a dick so big he couldn't suck it?

[FallentoReason]

Let me get something straight. What is a true Christian? Someone that does good works, believes in the Son of God, goes to church every sunday, loves on everyone, is born again (well depending on your denomination), believes in the trinity (depending on you denomination)?

A person who accepts Christ as their savior, believing He was born of a virgin, lived a perfect (sinless) life, was crucified for our sins and raised from the dead and sets at the right hand of the Father. A lot of the rest is opinion. One should be baptized, but this is not a requirement, the thief on the cross is proof of this.

You just described my former beliefs. I must have been a Christian then.