God does not love you...

[Drich]

No, I do not attest to the love of god. I am contesting your biased interpretations of your own holy book. Nothing more, nothing less.

How so?

Actually it does. My position is merely that you are wrong in your assessment.

Then please restate your position.

A definition is reference material.

Not without a being tied to a legitimate source. Otherwise it is just a definition.

As this source does not support your assessment, it upholds my position. You are redefining words to suit your needs.

My position is that Agape is not a love that is free from terms or conditions. (as per John 3:16) One must adhere to said terms in order to receive the boundless nature of this form of Love that God is offering.

This point has been stated and restated a dozen times now, if you believe I am changing anything then go back and reread my previous posts.

Pity that you don't understand that literally everything you read is commentary. Whether it is based on facts or not is the crux of it.

I have listed 3 actual reference books for the other person who wanted to argue this very same argument. At least that person and I were able to agree on the authority of what true reference material looks like. (wiki-p, random outlines in sociology and phantom definitions not being apart of the discussion.)

[Shell B]

Ah, yes, "random" definitions from trustworthy universities.

This is an utter waste of time. All of your beliefs are based on your own interpretations. They make it possible for you to read the Bible and not hate the antagonist of the piece. Read the Bible from a literal perspective and you will see things differently. Until such a time as you can manage that, you will continue to make shoddy arguments in order to support your preconceived ideas of god. Good luck with that.

[Drich]

Ah, yes, "random" definitions from trustworthy universities.

This is an utter waste of time. All of your beliefs are based on your own interpretations. They make it possible for you to read the Bible and not hate the antagonist of the piece. Read the Bible from a literal perspective and you will see things differently. Until such a time as you can manage that, you will continue to make shoddy arguments in order to support your preconceived ideas of god. Good luck with that.

So you refuse to restate your position, you ignore legitimate translation material such as Strong's, Thayer's, Bullingers, or BDag lexicons. In favor of random material that may or may not be consistent with the specific translation of passages from the bible that is actually being discussed. Just so you can harp on a undefined and illusive point that seems to float where ever you wish to argue from.

Which BTW now seems to favor a literal English reading of the bible, rather than correcting my understanding of the Greek. Which means you would have us ignore the original Greek text, in favor of what is easiest for you to understand and argue. You are correct this does seem to have been a great waist of time.

[Shell B]

Why should I "restate" my position? From the word go, I have merely contested your "definition" of agape love.

It's waste. For fuck's sake.

[genkaus]

Unless your intention is to argue a straw man then may I suggest that you go back and reread what has be "purported."

What has been purported is that he decides things about people's life an death without even consulting them. That is evil.

[Epimethean]

[Drich]

Why should I "restate" my position? From the word go, I have merely contested your "definition" of agape love.

It's waste. For fuck's sake.

A waste indeed for the defination I repersented is not my own but the consensus from these lexicons: Strong's, Thayer's, Bullingers, and the BDag.

[Epimethean]

[Drich]

Drich, you serve weak sauce. You probably have no understanding of the connections between Attic, Koine, Katharevousa and Demotic Greek. Typical fundie.

From the Agape defination you and Shell B posted:
The concept is expanded on in the Judaic-Christian tradition of loving God: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might” (Deuteronomy 6:5) and loving “thy neighbour as thyself” (Leviticus 19:18). The love of God requires absolute devotion.

Which denotes a condition or term for said love. Which supports my position, and undermines your own.
You like the poster above should take the time to read the source material you quote. For you both quoted this material but did not take the time to consider the implications of the context in which the word was being used.

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You love to tout your lexicon and yet you discredit other lexicons. Interesting bias. Agenda?

Which lexicon was discredited? I staqrted out with one and have added every other one mention to my list. I have four now.

[Epimethean]

Read and respond to the citation and link just posted, please, dear heart.