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Obama against same sex marriage
#21
RE: Obama against same sex marriage
One always has to consider that things a politician says during an election cycle are a reflection of his desire to garner votes rather than a true reflection of his personal convictions. This phenomenon occurs across all types of politicians and should be considered endemic to the species.

Or, to put it more succinctly: You can't trust a word the fuckers say.
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#22
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You also have to realize that, as a person who holds public office, politicians may give "official" views that differ from their personal views. That is... if they're doing it right.
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#23
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Well, I suppose that we now all know that although he feels it's personally wrong, he knows what's best for the population and taking religion out of politics, somehow.
“Whoever will be free must make himself free. Freedom is no fairy gift to fall into a man's lap. What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self.” - Max Stirner.
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#24
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The man picks and chooses his words like a boss, I must say. And I notice his "stance" has changed quite a bit to garner the votes from the independent-republicans since they're a bit more numerous than the indie-libs in this country.

Watch as he magically has a change of heart and turns against the Drug War and goes back to support gay marriage the moment he gets re-elected.

The rhetoric is just that. Rhetoric. His actions speak louder than his words and his pro-gay endorsements in the past can't be tarnished just because he's working the media game. He's just trying to do TOO much. He wants his critics to shut up and quit whining. Obama suffers from a delusion that everyone can love him. They can't. He needs to just tough it up and get to work and he'll do just fine.

Granted...this country does have a really large population of mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers who think Fox News is a credible news source...
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#25
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Hasnt came out in favour of gay marriage?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18023590



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#26
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(May 11, 2012 at 11:54 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: His actions speak louder than his words and his pro-gay endorsements in the past can't be tarnished just because he's working the media game.

Action? Where?

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#27
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(May 9, 2012 at 6:37 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: You also have to realize that, as a person who holds public office, politicians may give "official" views that differ from their personal views. That is... if they're doing it right.
Unless your surname is "Paul" it seems, lol.
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#28
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Obamas a sock puppet, he says what his advisors think the majority wants to hear.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
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#29
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Creed of Heresy Wrote:Obama suffers from a delusion that everyone can love him.

I think he feels that as the first African American president he has a responsibility to be as broadly pleasing as possible.
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#30
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(May 8, 2012 at 3:16 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Seriously, he's going to couch his words in such a way so as to gain as many / lose as few votes as possible while not completely alienating his base.

So, why did he only support civil unions in 2008? If he wanted to get the gay votes, why not just say he support same-sex marriage then? We know that Joe Biden doesn't operate from much of a script, so I just think Obama was kind of forced to take a stand on the issue after Biden, and since Biden obviously came out in favor of equality, Obama wants to come off as being in agreement with his vice president and vice versa. It may have been a completely calculated political move on Obama's part, but I'm just saying that may be one reason for the switch.
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