What stops you from sinning in heaven?

[Aiza]

[Reforged]

Hey Azia, quick question to demonstrate your mindset;
The Pope, is he the "voice" of the omnipotent, always correct and all powerful being that is God?

[Zen Badger]

I'm trying to find purgatory in my bible.....damn, doesn't seem to be in there. Well, no matter, it's not like I look to the bible to fact check things. There's plenty of shit that isn't in there but exists nevertheless, so I guess this is just one of those things?

Well, no, it is in the Bible as I mentioned before. But yes, you are right--not everything is in the Bible, so even if it wasn't in the Bible, that would have no bearing on the issue. For Catholics at least, Oral and Written Tradition are both equally important and inspired.

I like oral, as I suspect most catholic priests do.

[The Grand Nudger]

Well, no, it is in the Bible as I mentioned before. But yes, you are right--not everything is in the Bible, so even if it wasn't in the Bible, that would have no bearing on the issue. For Catholics at least, Oral and Written Tradition are both equally important and inspired.

No, it isn't. The last bit doesn't worry you? The notion that a centuries old game of "he said she said" is just as important as "god said" doesn't worry you? It would worry me, if I believed in such things, and wanted to make sure I pleased such creatures.

I think perfection arises from a perfect love of God, so that your own will is enjoined to his, in the same way as our Blessed Mother. They still have the "ability" to do evil, but they don't. And the same thing is true of a living person--a perfect living person does not do evil.

And people again, cannot repent in hell because if they had goodness within them, that allowed them to feel remorse for evil deeds; they would not be in Hell. When you reject all goodness, that includes that goodness within you as well. And the same is true of a living person--a living person who rejects all goodness would never repent or feel remorse. They might be angry if any consequences of their evil spill onto them, but actually out of genuine love for God and his fellow humans? No.

Try flipping it around: its not that a perfect person can't do evil, its that a person who does evil can't be perfect. And its not that a fully wicked person can't feel remorse, its that a person who feels genuine remorse can't be fully wicked.

I think perfection arises from blueberry waffles. But that is neither here nor there. So people could potentially do evil in heaven, sounds fair enough. Would they then be sent to hell or purgatory supposing that they did decide to commit evil while in heaven?

Your description of hell makes it sound like a pretty empty place. You'd have to stand a lot of people up against a wall to find a single one that "can't feel remorse". Similarly, you'd be hard pressed to find a single person who had no "goodness within them" -cue the way serial killer's mothers blather on about how sweet their boy was. I bet he was, except for the whole eating people bit.

[Cinjin]

Some things piss me off about christianity, but there are some things that just make me laugh.

I rather love the Magic Factor when Heaven comes into the conversation.

Free will disappears magically because we suddenly won't have personal desires anymore ... magically.
And people will just magically be content doing the same thing for all of eternity. Keeping in mind that not all christians in Heaven were gloriously devout while alive on earth. Many were saved as gullible children and just went with it for fear of being burned. Some christians didn't even attend church all that often and yet are magically going to love worshiping jesus for eternity. They won't have free will anymore, but magically, they won't care about not having their free will. Their god will magically make them happy and content with their golden shackles on.

My mother-in-law is a wonderfully kind woman but she's as bright as bag of hair.
She LOVES herself some Jesus and is ALWAYS ready to talk about the sweet love of god (devout as hell) and even she once asked me, "Do you think we'll have to worship Jesus all day long? - I don't think I'd want to do it all the time."

And this is someone who seriously LOVES everything Christian. Magic is an illusion and if your Heaven actually did exist -- you should be terrified.


Still, it makes me laugh.

[fuckass365]

@Cinjin, heaven sounds boring as fuck

[NoMoreFaith]

@Cinjin, heaven sounds boring as fuck

.. scary.. sounds terrifying, don't forget the creatures full of eyes with loads of wings on chanting Glory Glory Glory .. for eternity while God sits (he gets tired sometimes I guess) on his throne lapping it all up.

If that biblical image of heaven doesn't put the shits up you I don't know what will.

[Ryft]

... and even she once asked me, "Do you think we'll have to worship Jesus all day long? I don't think I'd want to do it all the time."

Personally, I cannot imagine ever wanting to stop worshiping the Lord and Savior. An eternity worshiping him: it almost seems not long enough.

[Minimalist]

Hey Azia, quick question to demonstrate your mindset;

Hey, Azia....why did Pedopope keep transferring pervert priests around Bavaria instead of calling the cops?

[Neo-Scholastic]

In the New Church, we look forward to an eternity of performing useful services perfectly suited to what we love and enjoy doing.