@ Alter2Ego I answered your eight questions and added a little.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
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@ Alter2Ego I answered your eight questions and added a little.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 23, 2012 at 3:56 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 23, 2012 at 12:00 pm)Insanity x Wrote: When I see all this loved up bible nonsense it makes me want to go quote some of the more interesting parts of the bible. You know like "I [Jesus] will kill her children with death." 2:23 Revelations You almost imply that cherry picking bible verses is not a common occurrence
(May 22, 2012 at 3:47 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: And it so just happens, that if one reads the Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, German or Finnish version, one's wrong if they all mention burning in hellfire? Once again, the bible is a failure as an accurate description of anything, since it seems that no one can translate the piece of shit decently. ALTER2EGO -to- KAYENNEH: It doesn't matter what language something is translated into. The contents should be the same so that anyone reading the info in their language would come away with the same understanding Translators are imperfect humans. They make mistakes. However, some Bible versions contain many more errors than others, and some of the translation blunders are deliberate. For example, translators who believe in the Trinity and hellfire dogmas have actually inserted words into their version that don't belong in the Bible at all. In some instances, they removed words that belong in the Bible because leaving in the particular words would raise a red flag that the teaching of a 3-prong god is not scriptural. The King James Version is a prime example of this. It contains dozens of translation blunders that were discovered by modern translators who went back and read older, more reliable manuscripts that predate the manuscripts upon which the KJV is based. (May 24, 2012 at 1:05 am)Alter2Ego Wrote: It doesn't matter what language something is translated into. The contents should be the same so that anyone reading the info in their language would come away with the same understanding That worked out well.
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
May 24, 2012 at 9:50 am
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2012 at 10:04 am by Alter2Ego.)
(May 23, 2012 at 10:20 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Even though I remain suspicious of the OP, I will for the benefit of my brothers and sisters I will explain the New Church approach to biblical symbolism. Every term and phrase in the Word expresses an inner meaning that correspondences with a spiritual truth about our Lord. These spiritual meanings add to the literary and historical meanings that convey more basic instruction.ALTER2EGO -to- CHADWOOTERS: As I mentioned in my opening post, fire is used in the Bible to symbolize cleansing OR permanent destruction. The scripture at Matthew 3:11 that you quoted above is one such example. The speaker is John the Baptist, and he's referring to Jesus Christ. "I, for my part, baptize you with water because of your repentance; but the one coming after me is stronger than I am, whose sandals I am not fit to take off. That one will baptize you people with holy spirit and fire." (Matthew 3:11) That scripture has no connection whatsoever with hellfire. Furthermore, the Bible indicates that hell is nothing more than mankind's common grave. If it were a place of literal fiery torment, Jesus Christ, the epitome of a righteous man, would not have spent three days there after his crucifixion as that would have been unjust. "{21} In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving you a model for you to follow his steps closely. {22} He committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth." (1 Peter 2:21-22) "He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that HIS SOUL WAS NOT LEFT IN HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption." (Acts 2:31--King James Version) ~***~
@Aleter2Ego if I beg would you stop using all these colors?
(May 23, 2012 at 10:20 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The God that answereth by fire, let him be God. (1 Kings 18:24) The angel of the Lord appeared unto Moses in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. (Exodus 3:2) The Ancient of days did sit: . . . his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. (Dan. 7:9) ...his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace. (Rev. 1: 14, 15) In these and many other passages we read about how our Lord radiates love.ALTER2EGO -to- CHADWOOTERS: Why are you quoting these verses? They are all presenting different circumstances in which fire is used, and none of the circumstances involve hellfire. 1. The verse at Exodus 3:2 speaks about God's angel appearing to Moses in a flame of fire. 2. The scripture at Daniel 7:9 is talking about God's throne being like the fiery flame. 3. Daniel 7:9 is comparing God's eyes to a flame of fire. Hell is supposedly underground; remember? God's angel appeared to Moses above ground in a flame of fire. God's throne is in the heavens. You are indiscriminately selecting verses of scriptures simply because the word "fire" appears somewhere in the verses, and you're doing this regardless of the context. |
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