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Another argument for existence of God!
#31
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
(May 23, 2012 at 6:14 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(May 23, 2012 at 5:14 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: @Polaris
A hunch...
Any particular part of their Iron Age histories you have in mind? You're really not being very specific.

The Annals of the Kings of Judah.

Oh right? You mean one of the lost books of the Old Testament that could more or less say anything?
Thats quite the hunch, anything that makes you choose that one inparticular?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
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#32
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
(May 23, 2012 at 8:39 pm)padraic Wrote:
(May 23, 2012 at 2:31 pm)Polaris Wrote: Yeah. Evidence. It's what we look for in the academic field.


Do you mean 'credible evidence' and 'proof' ?

'Evidence' is NOT a synonym for 'proof'. I guess religious studies have 'looser' standards of evidence.

Quote:The Annals of the Kings of Judah.

Book of Kings I think. Mate religious texts are not credible prime source historical documents,period.

Like I said. I look for the evidence of those who follow religions.

They are credible when they are corroborated by the archeological record and extra-Biblical sources. Kings and Chronicles are merely a consolidation of the histories of the kingdoms of Judah and Israel with some religious elements mixed in.

@Drake. Because the Bible basically says if you really want to know more, go read these books. I doubt if they had not existed, the Chronicler would have made such a comment.

But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#33
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#34
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
You ask for contemporary sources? Just wow.
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#35
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
(May 25, 2012 at 12:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: You ask for contemporary sources? Just wow.


Why wow? Too hard? The burden of proof applies as much to any religious or historical claim as to a scientific one.. Supporting contemporary evidence is THE basic standard of evidence required by historians.


Without supporting contemporary evidence, historical accounts are hearsay/anecdotal. The best that can be said of such accounts is "X MAY be thee case" 'NOT "X IS the case"

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#36
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
Oh wait. I was thinking of another definition, the use which donates the modern era. Sorry for the confusion.

The best are the Tel Dan stele and the Assyrian depiction of Lachish.

But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#38
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
Quote:The best are the Tel Dan stele and the Assyrian depiction of Lachish.

Read George Athas' The Tel Dan Inscription: A Reappraisal and a New Interpretation before committing too much to that one. Once again, it seems that people see what they wish to see. The reconstruction of the stele is a bit of a Rohrschact test for Israeli archaeology.

Still waiting for some evidence that the Annals of the Kings of Judah is something more than wishful thinking on the part of bible apologists.

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#39
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
Lachish was a fortified town in Israel (it was actually not originally an Israelite settlement, but one they captured by force; the Bible claims there were no survivors left) that was taken by siege by the Assyrians. It is described in the Bible and was considered such a momentous victory by the Assyrians that they engraved a fresco in Sennacherib's palace at Nineveh depicting what they did to the inhabitants. It may have been a much more important city than the Bible gave credit...the Bible only mentions that the Assyrian incursions were based at this town, possibly because of it's strategic locating on the path towards Jerusalem.

Compared to the other nations of the world, Israel was just some back-water power and David only ruled a relatively small sliver of land deemed so unimportant at the time that the nation was left to its own accord until changing political ambitions three centuries later....this was the same time as the Egyptian Dark Ages.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#40
RE: Another argument for existence of God!
So essentially polaris..your god does not exist?
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