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If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 9:04 am
If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
God does not follow the first rule at all.
The bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or sin.
This shows that what many thinks is our number one moral value was completely ignored by God.
Is God immoral or has man gotten morality wrong?
If God was right, then are we to believe that fathers are to bury their children instead of the way people think in that children should bury their parents?
John 6:44
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him.”
On earth as it is in heaven.
If you had God’s power to set the conditions for atonement, would you step up yourself or would you send your child to die?
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 9:07 am
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2012 at 9:09 am by satan helper.)
Good point. 
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 11:53 am
(June 9, 2012 at 9:07 am)satan helper Wrote: Good point.
Thanks.
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 11:57 am
'morality' is man's verson of God's perfect Righteousness. It is 'rightousness' based on one's personal standards, or rather it is a Self Righteousness.
So did man get 'morality' wrong? No. For is morality, and has always fallen short of The true Righteous Standard of God.
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 12:20 pm
(June 9, 2012 at 11:57 am)Drich Wrote: 'morality' is man's verson of God's perfect Righteousness. It is 'rightousness' based on one's personal standards, or rather it is a Self Righteousness.
So did man get 'morality' wrong? No. For is morality, and has always fallen short of The true Righteous Standard of God.
King of piffle has spoken yet again.
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 12:25 pm
(June 9, 2012 at 11:57 am)Drich Wrote: 'morality' is man's verson of God's perfect Righteousness. It is 'rightousness' based on one's personal standards, or rather it is a Self Righteousness.
So did man get 'morality' wrong? No. For is morality, and has always fallen short of The true Righteous Standard of God.
The true Righteous Standard of God, don't make me laugh. So what is righteous is stoning your neighbour for working on Sunday or not sing seeds of different plants in the same field?
Seriously God is not righteous by any means. morality is fluid and will change over time, it will never be perfect but generally what is it is doing the greater good and/or the least harm, that means going with the lesser of two evils.
In short my little toe is is more righteous then god and any abrahamic religion
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Greatest I am Wrote:If you had God’s power to set the conditions for atonement, would you step up yourself or would you send your child to die?
Which is solved with the nonsensical concept of the trinity, which makes it so god can do both.
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Quote:God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or sin.
That makes god something of a horse's ass.
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 4:26 pm
(June 9, 2012 at 11:57 am)Drich Wrote: 'morality' is man's verson of God's perfect Righteousness. It is 'rightousness' based on one's personal standards, or rather it is a Self Righteousness.
So did man get 'morality' wrong? No. For is morality, and has always fallen short of The true Righteous Standard of God.
Okay,i cussed my mother once i better tell her to go and kill me.
For righteousness right?
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RE: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
June 9, 2012 at 6:00 pm
(June 9, 2012 at 9:04 am)Greatest I am Wrote: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
God does not follow the first rule at all.
The bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or sin.
This shows that what many thinks is our number one moral value was completely ignored by God.
Is God immoral or has man gotten morality wrong?
If God was right, then are we to believe that fathers are to bury their children instead of the way people think in that children should bury their parents?
John 6:44
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him.”
On earth as it is in heaven.
If you had God’s power to set the conditions for atonement, would you step up yourself or would you send your child to die?
Regards
DL
Massively wrong, God did not create sin, sin came into the creation after God had finished creating.
I have no idea where you're going with the rest of that junk.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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