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your opinion on joe paterno
#11
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
(June 24, 2012 at 9:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's how I feel about the fucking pope!

Funny you should say that; I was actually thinking of the Pope when I wrote that.(I swear)

This is getting like Godwin's Law; it seems that whenever moral bankruptcy is mentioned,the Pope comes up. Thinking'


Time for a new eponymous law?
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#12
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
Go for it.

You can even leave in the "God" part. That phony bastard would appreciate it.
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#13
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
Padraic, Paterno was told that one of his assistant coaches was seen in the act of sexually molesting a child. Paterno told his superiors, but did not follow up. He did not do enough, but there are others that held more responsibility to act than he did (legally). My point of view is not a fallacy of any kind. He should have done more, but he is not as responsible for allowing it to continue as his superiors are.

The good news is that Sandusky was found guilty of 45 counts of child sexual abuse. The bad news is that people like Paterno could have stopped that monster much sooner.
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#14
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
He could've gone public with it too after investigating it himself, which he most likely did.

If he didn't, it calls his character into question.

If he did but then remained silent for a while, then he is guilty of aiding and abetting it.
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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#15
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
The notion that a great sportsman must also be an outstanding appeaser of the contemporary public sensibility is, in my opinion, a lot of self-import and self-serving baloney served up by the sporting establishment for its own aggrandizement.

A field ought to recognize those who advanced its own art even if the contributor is not the greatest of all round human beings.

I think Watson deserves his Nobel prize for his discovery of the role and structure of DNA not a bit less even if he did steal fruits of someone else's work without giving any credit, and a racist bastard to the end. Paterno is no where near as faulty a person as far as I can tell. So build him his statue as long as people indulge in the frivolous reverence of sports heroes.
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#16
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
(June 24, 2012 at 10:05 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: He could've gone public with it too after investigating it himself, which he most likely did.

If he didn't, it calls his character into question.

If he did but then remained silent for a while, then he is guilty of aiding and abetting it.

If he knew and remained silent then I think what's described in this video would have been appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np67piTSAzk
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#17
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
My point of view is not a fallacy of any kind

Well,yes it IS actually. The statement that others committed worse crimes IS tu quoque (look it up,for fuck sake) and irrelevant.

As is this statement;

Quote:but there are others that held more responsibility to act than he did (legally)
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#18
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
oh, whatever.
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#19
RE: your opinion on joe paterno
Joepa should have done more and I believe he knew this, but how much did he really know is the question. Joepa has done a world of good for the young men that came through the Penn State program, he turned down pro contracts that would have made his at Penn State look pitiful. His reason for doing so, he felt he could help those kids become successful young men who could contribute to their own communities. I believe the decision of whether or not to put up a statue should be left up to a community that knew him best. I'm not a Penn State fan (my blood runs orange), whoever I have a great deal of respect for a man who cared for those under his charge, than he did for his own personal gain, Joepa saw gain as boys becoming men not wins and losses.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#20
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Sandusky, on the other hand, is a model Catholic.
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