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Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm by Jeffonthenet.)
People keep calling God an imaginary friend, a myth, and saying that believing in Him is like believing in Batman. However, by the standard of evidence that atheists seem to require of me, they say that positive claims require positive evidence. Now, saying that believing in God is like believing in Batman is a positive claim, so I ask, where is the evidence?
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KayBys8gaJY
Watch, remove head from sphincter, then talk.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 12:30 pm
There exists a five legged monkey that rides backwards on a unicorn through an enchanted forrest playing Mozart with cricket legs.
If you do not believe in such an entity, provide evidence for its non-existence.
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm
How dare you Cato! He lives in my closet! Prove me wrong!
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
(July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: People keep calling God an imaginary friend, a myth, and saying that believing in Him is like believing in Batman. However, by the standard of evidence that atheists seem to require of me, they say that positive claims require positive evidence. Now, saying that believing in God is like believing in Batman is a positive claim, so I ask, where is the evidence?
Our evidence for that claim is the fact of your utter failure and refusal to provide even a shred of evidence for your extraordinary positive claim of the existence of your fairy tale monster.
/fucking thread
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 12:45 pm by Reforged.)
No proof for Batman, no proof for God. That is the similarity being pointed out in this comparison, they are on par plausibility wise.
Of course, you already knew this didn't you? So may I ask why you chose to waste everyones time by creating a thread that could easily be answered in a sentence and a half? Do you think the people who see this thread will bother to look at others you create considering just how tedious a standard you have just set?
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm
You claim that a god exists without offering so much as a single reason to believe that claim is true. Well... I don't believe you, as I have never encountered a reason to.
It's as simple as that and you can't believe how many times I have typed it.
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 1:18 pm by Rhizomorph13.)
(July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: People keep calling God an imaginary friend, a myth, and saying that believing in Him is like believing in Batman. However, by the standard of evidence that atheists seem to require of me, they say that positive claims require positive evidence. Now, saying that believing in God is like believing in Batman is a positive claim, so I ask, where is the evidence?
Jeff,
None of the statements in your OP are positive claims; they are simply unflatering characterizations of a belief in God. Were an atheist to make the claim, "God does not exist" They would invite the burden of proof and would have to proove the non-existence of God. This is why intellectually honest atheists adopt an agnostic stance towards God and simply reject the belief as an unprovable claim.
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 1:43 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm by Welsh cake.)
(July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: People keep calling God an imaginary friend, a myth, Your definition of god? You've yet to present that before we can call it imaginary, until you do, you have worse than a fictional non-entity, you have nothing.
Quote:and saying that believing in Him is like believing in Batman.
No one has ever said that because that's asinine. Batman and an almighty sky daddy aren't even in the same plane of thought! Batman does not use any magical bullshit superpowers. He uses his brains and physical prowess to combat criminals and organised crime syndicates.
When you think about it, Batman as a concept, is WAY more plausible than magic man.
Now provide evidence of your silly concept or go away.
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
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