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Someone debate me
#31
RE: Someone debate me
(July 17, 2012 at 12:40 am)padraic Wrote: @mystic: I am not trying to change anyone's beliefs. Not only do I consider proselytising arrogant, I don't care enough to bother. This forum is a past time for me. In daily life Jeff and his fellow travelers don't get the time of day from me. Nor do I bother with new age flakes. The guy asked for a debate. I said no,giving my reasons. The End.

You said he seems like a person whom is set on his beliefs and unwilling to change. The fact is most people seem that way. But people do change over time.
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#32
RE: Someone debate me
Quote:You said he seems like a person whom is set on his beliefs and unwilling to change.


I said no such thing. I said he is unwilling to concede the possibility of error,which is not the same thing. I could not care less if he changes, bursts into flames, or not.. I don't suffer fools.


Actually,most people do not change in any meaningful way;the very notion is too threatening and just too hard. Significant change tends to happen quickly or not at all.
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#33
RE: Someone debate me
Jeffonthenet Wrote:It is sad that when it comes down to it, most atheists just cannot rationally maintain atheism

How did you come to this conlcusion after no one jumped at the opportunity to debate you on the issue of whether or not believing in god is rational, or are you just stirring the pot and being a dick?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#34
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Quote:or are you just stirring the pot and being a dick?


The latter I think,and probably unintentionally. I think he's ignorant and not the brightest candle in the cathedral, but not especially nasty.Thinking
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#35
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In my experience it's no fun to mop the floor with someone if they're incapable of understanding you've done so. To me you clearly have poor standards of research given your very faulty logic and assertions that Darwin and Einstein were deists or theists. Maybe you were being disingenuous or maybe you were simply mistaken, I'm inclined to think the latter until I have cause to believe the former. The fact you repeated the same mistake (after it was pointed out around four or five times) smacks of laziness and/or intellectual dishonesty, especially given that you never conceded that the logic was faulty or that your assertions were incorrect.

The above stated is why I do not wish to debate you.
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#36
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How about we do the debate starting Saturday? I just started a new job so I don't have as much time right now.
"the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate" (1 Cor. 1:19)
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#37
RE: Someone debate me
(July 18, 2012 at 6:56 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: I just started a new job

I hope it's not in the field of evolutionary biology Wink
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#38
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Quote:"is it irrational to believe in God?"

Is it rational to "believe" in the irrational without evidence that the irrational exists.

Knock yourself out. It sounds like horseshit to me.
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#39
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Why do I have the feeling that this debate will end up being 'pigeon chess'?

Hopefully I'm wrong, but I do not hold out hope.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#40
RE: Someone debate me
Quote:Assuming I want or need to take on the baggage of your bronze age superstitions is patronising and insulting.

I won't call you patronizing and insulting because I don't want to accuse people of things, but can you understand how the statement you made could be interpreted as such?
"the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate" (1 Cor. 1:19)
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