Why has god made it so hard to defend religion?

[Mystic]

1. God exists and it's the nature of humanity to know of his existence. (foundation)
2. God cares about humanity (based on foundation)
3. If he cares about humanity, he will send them guidance
4. Therefore God out of his care and grace, sent guidance.

So you're saying that God truly does care about his creations, and that he has sent guidance to us. However, that is where issue lies. I have never seen nor heard of His divine guidance being bestowed upon humanity.

Yeah this is what I argued against, when presented this sort of argument as a falsifier. One Muslim told me that perhaps before coming to this world, they were tested in spiritual world known as "alamal Thar" and thus they deserved to be not sent Messengers. I know, cold ay. But this argument in my opinion does fail on this point.

The point I'm making, is not that religion is justified, it's that people can easily defend it.

In the point of assuming we have knowledge of God, while this doesn't prove anything to an Atheist, it helps them defend their faith.

I have several reasons to show premise "If God cares, he would sent guidance" is not necessarily true.

The point I'm making is religious people can justify their religion to themselves and defend it easily by making such arguments in their heads.

The 2nd one, I sort of got from a Christian friend, he didn't state the premises in that fashion, but what he was saying, was along those lines.

[Drich]

Thoughts, opinions.

what do you find so difficult?

All we must do is seperate the works of Man from the Righteousness of God. the 'defense' comes automatically.

[Anomalocaris]

Thoughts, opinions.

what do you find so difficult?

Taking what you say more seriously than the product of a lobotomized monkey hitting keys on a broken typewriter.

But rest assured that even so, we still take what you say more seriously than what your bible says.

[frankiej]

Thoughts, opinions.

what do you find so difficult?

All we must do is seperate the works of Man from the Righteousness of God. the 'defense' comes automatically.

It is all the work of man. Humans should stop and take responsibility for their mad creations and ramblings.

[Drich]

what do you find so difficult?

Taking what you say more seriously than the product of a lobotomized monkey hitting keys on a broken typewriter.

But rest assured that even so, we still take what you say more seriously than what your bible says.

Everything I do, say, and teach is just a very simple or illustrated version of something in the bible. without it I would have nothing to say.

[Reforged]

Taking what you say more seriously than the product of a lobotomized monkey hitting keys on a broken typewriter.

But rest assured that even so, we still take what you say more seriously than what your bible says.

Everything I do, say, and teach is just a very simple or illustrated version of something in the bible. without it I would have nothing to say.

Really? *Wow*.
Shit Drich, I feel sorry for you. Your life must be so empty to have literally nothing else to reference.
Group hug? :-(

[Anomalocaris]

Everything I do, say, and teach is just a very simple or illustrated version of something in the bible. without it I would have nothing to say.

Trust me,If the bible never existed you would most certainly have just as much to say, but based on a different, and equally idiotic and worthless source.

Devotion to the christian bible in particular is but a symptom, idiot desire to remain an intellectual infant but sucking on whatever childish pacifier is the disease, and that disease would not be cured by the mere removal any particular pacifier.

[Ben Davis]

The point I'm making, is not that religion is justified, it's that people can easily defend it.

No they can't. They can attempt to make arguments which have the appearance of a defense but without any way to demonstrate (or even provide reasonable evidence for) the existence of any particular supernatural deity, a proper defense is impossible.

What's easy is making stuff up that sounds plausible to the ignorant, the credulous or the misinformed.

[Minimalist]

Everything I do, say, and teach is just a very simple or illustrated version of something in the bible. without it I would have nothing to say.

With it you don't have much to say worth listening to.

[Drich]

Trust me,If the bible never existed you would most certainly have just as much to say, but based on a different, and equally idiotic and worthless source.

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