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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 5, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 6, 2012 at 4:11 am
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 6, 2012 at 7:09 am
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"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 6, 2012 at 7:21 am
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Ritualistic cannibalism???
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 6, 2012 at 8:37 am
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Nah, that would involve actually consuming human flesh as part of a ritual. It's more of an evocation. Sympathetic magic elevated to ceremonial status (which, in and of itself is pretty interesting). We might call it symbolic cannibalism in service of sympathetic ritual by way of evocation......lol, oh what tangled webs we weave.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 6, 2012 at 9:56 am
It's based on Plato's understanding if physics and metaphysics.
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 7, 2012 at 1:26 am
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 7, 2012 at 1:34 am
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Quote:God can not lie, deceiving and lying are not necessarily the same.
Interesting piece of sophistry. A basic definition of lying is to deliberately deceive another. 'White lies' , half truths and deliberate omissions to deceive are all lies.
If God sets out to deliberately deceive,he is lying,period.
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 7, 2012 at 2:53 am
(August 7, 2012 at 1:34 am)padraic Wrote: Quote:God can not lie, deceiving and lying are not necessarily the same.
Interesting piece of sophistry. A basic definition of lying is to deliberately deceive another. 'White lies' , half truths and deliberate omissions to deceive are all lies.
If God sets out to deliberately deceive,he is lying,period.
I agree all lies are deceit, however as I mentioned in the posts above deceiving can be a strategy, in the case of war or the game of chess. If you read what I posted God did not use direct deceit with the prophet, He allowed the prophet to believe his prophecy was true, thus allowing the prophet to be deceived. God can not lie it is not part of His nature.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 7, 2012 at 3:14 am
Quote:in the case of war or the game of chess.
I repeat; sophistry,to deliberately deceive IS to lie. However, I do not argue that lying is always immoral..
IF you accept the concept of a 'just war', (I do not) Sun Tzu's precept that war is about deception is perfectly moral. To argue that it is OK to deceive/lie under some circumstances is to argue moral relativism,or that God is above his own moral laws.
My position is that of moral relativism,based on the sensible notion that the ends justify the means. Pretty sure those are not Christian ideals. 
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