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Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
Quote:If Harry Potter were believed by a majority of a population as being a real super hero-----

and if my aunt had testicles she would be my uncle. Cool Shades


Nor may one claim 'atheists hate god' as a principle. An atheist is a person who does not believe in god(s). Nothing else is implied or may be inferred.
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#12
RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
Yeah, throwing in my two cents as well,

I do not hate god. Just like I don't hate Zeus, Santa, Shiva, Mohammad, Abraham, and all the other stupid children's stories.

I hate fundamentalists. That's all.
Gary Johnson 2012. America's representative for Reason and Logic.
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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
(August 9, 2012 at 12:09 am)padraic Wrote:
Quote:If Harry Potter were believed by a majority of a population as being a real super hero-----

and if my aunt had testicles she would be my uncle. Cool Shades


Nor may one claim 'atheists hate god' as a principle. An atheist is a person who does not believe in god(s). Nothing else is implied or may be inferred.

Where did I say that? Even as atheists we are still individuals.

I do hate god claims and religion AS CONCEPTS, not as a human rights issue. Just in the sense that there has never been any evidence for any god claimed, and that religion is divisive, yet despite that people still go around claiming it and still have wars over it.

Just like you would rightfully hate it if someone truly believed the earth was flat and went around claiming it, or if you had a friend who truly believed that Thor made lightening. Do not tell me wouldn't hate the claim, that is not the same as hating everything about that person.

No one is claiming we should hate all people who believe. But just like you may love your own brother, it would bother you if they farted at the thanksgiving table.

What I hate isn't any reality they think is real. But would be like if a Star Wars and Star Trec fan insisted those were real realities and based their politics on it and fought and killed over it.

That does NOT nor will it ever mean I hate all religious people, nor does it mean I can hate something that does not exist. Nor does it mean I cannot live with or even love people who claim things that drive me nuts. If that were the case my Catholic mother would had disowned me a long time ago for other reasons, even when I did believe.

I have no compunction saying I hate god claims. They make no sense and there has never been in our history as a species any credible evidence for any one of them. That does not, nor will it ever mean that I am claiming we should hate all religious people.

The Christian says "Love the sinner not the sin"

I say, "Love the claimant not the claim". Unless what comes out of your mouth ON ANY ISSUE, not just religion, but on any issue, unless you can go outside your own personal predilections, traditions, clubs, desires, or religion, and demonstrate that CLAIM as being credible, I have no reason to have to like the claim, even if I may like the person making a claim I might hate, even if I agree with their right to make that claim.

Claims do not deserve blind value even if we should value the right to make any claim you want.
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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
I don't believe in the Abrahamic God but I still hate it.
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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
(August 9, 2012 at 11:34 pm)ElijahDrew Wrote: I don't believe in the Abrahamic God but I still hate it.

Yes and no. Yes in the sense that people claim an invisible friend like claiming the earth is flat, that and the way the character is written in a bad fiction novel, like writing a book review, yes.

But no, in the sense that I cannot hate God anymore than I can hate Mickey Mouse. Nor do I hate any human solely based on one claim, humans are more than monochromatic robots. I can hate a claim without hating a person who makes a claim I might hate.

Just like I hate soccer and some of my friends love it and hate the NFL which I like.
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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
(August 8, 2012 at 6:58 am)Brian37 Wrote: Sorry, I did misread that.

NP, it's alright Smile
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
Quote:OK, ONE part; "The Song Of Solomon". The rest not so much.


You just like porn!
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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
(August 10, 2012 at 11:42 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:OK, ONE part; "The Song Of Solomon". The rest not so much.


You just like porn!

THAT sir is a vile canard. I do NOT like pornography! For your information, I don't even OWN a pornograph. Angel Cloud
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RE: Op ED On Pat Robertson, Fallacy Files.
(August 10, 2012 at 10:02 pm)padraic Wrote:
(August 10, 2012 at 11:42 am)Minimalist Wrote: You just like porn!

THAT sir is a vile canard. I do NOT like pornography! For your information, I don't even OWN a pornograph. Angel Cloud

What century do you live in. Get with the times. I have an Edison tube pornograph. It gives you music and a boner at the same time. The only problem is that it is self cranking. When oh when will they invent blow up dolls?
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