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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 10, 2012 at 11:56 pm
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(August 10, 2012 at 11:46 pm)padraic Wrote: Possibly more (?) Or not :"The Nicotine Mummies"
yes but science tells us........... those plant species existed in ancient times and simply went extinct, and those drawings of large boats "big enough to fit orchards" and all that, were likely never built (assuming they could float). There's also no evidece of the holy land (I'm not googling what they called it) was America it could have easily been Madagascar.........
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 10, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Fell was not an archaeologist at all. He had a PH. D. in marine biology.
He may have been quite accomplished when it comes to dealing with marine invertebrates but....
Quote:David H. Kelley, an archaeologist at the University of Calgary who is credited with a major breakthrough in the decipherment of Mayan glyphs, complained about Fell in a 1990 essay: "Fell's work [contains] major academic sins, the three worst being distortion of data, inadequate acknowledgment of predecessors, and lack of presentation of alternative views."
Jerald Dirks, IIRC, is a former xtian preacher who converted to Islam a fact which causes xtians to stain the backs of their underwear and muslims to stain the front of theirs. When you get to know me a bit better you will learn that I regard anyone holding a "theology" degree ( of any type ) as a fraud who should get into an honest line of work.
I doubt he became less of an asshole when he converted.
Who was the other one you mentioned?
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 10, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Quote:a fact which causes xtians to stain the backs of their underwear and muslims to stain the front of theirs.
Sometimes I wish I lived in your mind!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 11, 2012 at 12:01 am
(August 10, 2012 at 11:56 pm)cratehorus Wrote: (August 10, 2012 at 11:46 pm)padraic Wrote: Possibly more (?) Or not :"The Nicotine Mummies"
yes but science tells us........... those plant species existed in ancient times and simply went extinct, and those drawings of large boats "big enough to fit orchards" and all that, were likely never built (assuming they could float). There's also no evidece of the holy land (I'm not googling what they called it) was America it could have easily been Madagascar.........
I made no claims, simply pointed out the claims,which according to the evidence may or may not be true.I think it's unlikely, but who knows?
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 11, 2012 at 12:03 am
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(August 10, 2012 at 11:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Jerald Dirks, IIRC, is a former xtian preacher who converted to Islam a fact which causes xtians to stain the backs of their underwear and muslims to stain the front of theirs. When you get to know me a bit better you will learn that I regard anyone holding a "theology" degree ( of any type ) as a fraud who should get into an honest line of work. The other was Robert D. Crane.
Have you watched Jerald Dirks videos or read his work? His most famous book is called 'Muslims in American History: A Forgotten Legacy'. Honestly, I don't see how he is a fraud. Fell looks dodgy but I can't agree on Dirks.
eDIT: What does everyone think of this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpeYjp5ObNE
It's slow but the main point is that the person in the video believes the Lakota nations was one of the original tribes of Islam.
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 11, 2012 at 12:17 am
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I think I want the woman facing him to turn to face the camera so I can decide whether I'd tap that or not.
Other than that I'm not sure if this makes the Islamic faith as a whole anymore plausible than before I watched this video. It just tells me that all creeds are susceptible to the ever-varied poison of the mind that is religion.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 11, 2012 at 12:23 am
(August 10, 2012 at 11:59 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Quote:a fact which causes xtians to stain the backs of their underwear and muslims to stain the front of theirs.
Sometimes I wish I lived in your mind!
Don't you have enough trouble?
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 11, 2012 at 12:54 am
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Quote:Have you watched Jerald Dirks videos or read his work?
Is there something you don't understand by the term 'contemporary evidence'?. It means 'from the same time as the event(s]/person'. Usually refers to credible eyewitnesses. (plural)
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 11, 2012 at 12:56 am
(August 11, 2012 at 12:23 am)Minimalist Wrote: (August 10, 2012 at 11:59 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Sometimes I wish I lived in your mind!
Don't you have enough trouble?
You know what 'they' say - a trouble shared is a trouble doubled.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why Muslims are under rated.
August 11, 2012 at 12:58 am
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Quote:Have you watched Jerald Dirks videos or read his work? His most famous book is called 'Muslims in American History: A Forgotten Legacy'. Honestly, I don't see how he is a fraud. Fell looks dodgy but I can't agree on Dirks.
No. I do regard anyone who pretends to know....on the basis of reading old books....what happens after death as a crackpot. That includes ALL religions, not just your own.
I had to look up Robert D. Crane. A distinguished scholar to be sure but I have this nagging doubt that you will see that THIS
Quote:According to Crane, "Allah converted me to Islam when I was five years old, and again through a religious experience when I was 21, but I did not know there were other persons in the world who understood what Allah showed me until I met an old man in Bahrain who told me that there is a word for what I worshiped, and this is "Allah." I figured that all Muslims could not be bad, as I had thought before, if this man was so good and was an admitted Muslim. I did not choose to become a Muslim. I am and have always been a Muslim, but did not know it self-consciously until I was 50 years old.”[6]
does not impress me.
We get xtian tools in here all the time claiming jesus this or jesus that and for all I know what they are actually experiencing is constipation.
You see my friend, and I'm starting to appreciate you, until evidence is provided that any deity exists I am not willing to grant that "allah" converted him to anything.
You do not get to skip Step #1. The assertions of believers do not constitute evidence for the existence of whatever god they elect to follow.
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