Olympics

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Quote:What about all the unemployed that would have had their benefits removed if they did not 'volunteer'?

I have no issue with the concept,but in reality such people would probably be exploited.

Here in Oz we have 'work for the dole'. Restricted to able bodied people between 18-25 years. An utter waste of time,as they are severely limited in what hey can actually do. This is because of (1) employers dying to exploit them and (2) unions worried they will take paid work from members.

Here during the 2000 Sydney games,there were many times more volunteers than were needed. My nephew was a driver,and had the time of his life. I suspect claims about the Brit unemployed may be exaggerated. Perhaps they were ALLOWED to volunteer?

[jonb]

Here during the 2000 Sydney games,there were many times more volunteers than were needed. My nephew was a driver,and had the time of his life. I suspect claims about the Brit unemployed may be exaggerated. Perhaps they were ALLOWED to volunteer?

Actually so many found ways of getting out of it, they had to call the army in to cover for them.
The trouble with Britain is the underhand way things are run, nobody admits there is a sort of workfare, but it goes on under the table. The system is supposed to be one thing, but it works in an entirely different way. We are supposed to have a national health system, but 70% of people with mental heath issues never get treatment. On the other hand you get parts of it which are truly world class. Nobody wants to confront the cost it would be to take all the service up to a high standard, but nobody wants to admit there are areas that are severely lacking, so the politicians argue a bit over a minor point, shift a bit and then the real issue is swept under the table.
'Perfidious Albion' as Napoleon said, oh you know which one, the other one, not our one, the short one, no I'm not saying our one is a short one, I'm talking about the other one, who actually by the standards of his day was not a short one either, but thinking about it I have never met our one, so he might be a short one, who can say? (Whoops wrong thread.)

PS Pad your things show when I copy them, is it just that they don't like you?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Actually so many found ways of getting out of it, they had to call the army in to cover for them.

Ah, I keep forgetting the UK is not Oz. We have one of the highest levels of volunteerism in the world.


Besides, the Olympics is a multi $billion,elitist , commercial enterprise which few of the hoi poloi actually get to see. (even if they can afford the tickets)

I think they have a cheek asking for volunteers. Fuck 'em. I also think they have a fucking cheek using the army. They want a commercial games,with professional athletes? Fine,then the games should bloody well be self supporting.

PS Pad your things show when I copy them, is it just that they don't like you?

Pardon?

[jonb]

It is not that many Brits do not volunteer, its just that so many get kicked in the face for doing so.
I do not even mind paying something towards the the thing, but when the money actually goes the the old boys network that runs it, and the corporations that earn from it, and the money is taken out of amateur sports which I used to give my time for to pay for it, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. You are lucky in oz that the british criminal code hardly ever convicted an aristocrat, so you are relatively free of the bastards.

Pardon?

Scrub that I got an erroneous smiley in the quote from you, and I thought you were still having trouble with them not apearing, but having checked back it was not in your text so I have no idea where it came from now.

[Reforged]

[Napoléon]

I heard the olympics is where a dumb ass with a really bad mop of hair making an idiot of himself on a zip line for all to see.

I don't know where you got this from, he's certainly not a dumbass.

[NoraBrimstone]

I've never been a sports fan but absolutely loved the Olympics. I was watching them on TV all the time when I was home and watching the live feed on the BBC website all the time at work!
To me, and many other people here, the games weren't all about the sport. It was about getting together as a country and doing something great. We don't often get something to celebrate as a nation, we usually mess things up and complain about the rest of Europe hating us. This was our chance to prove we can be awesome we certainly delivered that.

The atmosphere in London has been fantastic, it's been like a big 2 week long party with lots of pink and purple and seeing the athletes from all over the world and their friends, families and supporters every day really gave a sense that the whole city was involved.

I'm pretty sad it's over now. I spent my whole adult life so far thinking of London only as far as this year's Olympics. Now they're over there's an air of "Now what?" about the place. Sure, we have the biggest and best Paralympic Games starting soon, but what next for London? This is going to be quite a come-down.

[Tiberius]

1. Lords cricket ground is one of the venues where staff have been affected.
2. A cousin of mine was given exactly that proposition.

This will not qualify as evidence because there is no published data that I know of, on the other hand they are in my personal experience.

You're correct, neither of those qualify as evidence. Personal experience is meaningless; if it were true, someone would have reported it. Are you seriously suggesting that a party like Labour or the Socialist Worker's Party wouldn't have made some fuss about this kind of thing?

As with most things, those that liked the Olympics will think it is not true those that don't like it will be inclined to take my word for it.

I didn't like the Olympics and I'm not taking your word for it. Your word is not more important than evidence, and it most certainly is not more important than truth.

Who is going to investigate? Nobody that likes the british Olympic propaganda.

There are quite a few political newspapers that don't like British Olympic propaganda.

It's like the story of how britain got the thing in the first place. We beat the French, it was not at all that the French decided to pull out was it?

No, it was not that at all. Paris were in the running until the final vote, which was against London, and they lost. All of this is documented. Now I know why you don't seem to like evidence; you clearly prefer to make up stuff and believe that instead.

[jonb]

1. Lords cricket ground is one of the venues where staff have been affected.
2. A cousin of mine was given exactly that proposition.

This will not qualify as evidence because there is no published data that I know of, on the other hand they are in my personal experience.

You're correct, neither of those qualify as evidence. Personal experience is meaningless; if it were true, someone would have reported it. Are you seriously suggesting that a party like Labour or the Socialist Worker's Party wouldn't have made some fuss about this kind of thing?

As with most things, those that liked the Olympics will think it is not true those that don't like it will be inclined to take my word for it.

I didn't like the Olympics and I'm not taking your word for it. Your word is not more important than evidence, and it most certainly is not more important than truth.

Who is going to investigate? Nobody that likes the british Olympic propaganda.

There are quite a few political newspapers that don't like British Olympic propaganda.

It's like the story of how britain got the thing in the first place. We beat the French, it was not at all that the French decided to pull out was it?

No, it was not that at all. Paris were in the running until the final vote, which was against London, and they lost. All of this is documented. Now I know why you don't seem to like evidence; you clearly prefer to make up stuff and believe that instead.

First . Well I do not read the papers, and as far as I know I have not heard this issue mentioned on the T.V or radio. So yes if there has been no reporting of this issue they might well of not made a fuss, but then again, why would they pursue some minor matter that would not be cohesive to their popularity even among a significant number of their own supporters.

2 I applaud your emotional suppression to favour what you think is logic.

3 I would not know, but it is sometimes worth playing down a thing if you want to proclaim what a success it was afterwards.

4 So it was just a mistake that the president of France, made a speech about how rubbish Finnish cookery was, to a number of Finnish Judges, as they were about to vote which bid would get the thumbs up, maybe.

Right, now lets talk about evidence shall we because it is clear that you don't understand what evidence is! There is hard evidence like an artefact yes that is evidence, but there is also a consistent set of events, this is called 'circumstantial evidence' you seem not to have heard of this phrase. This would cover things like who was in the room at the time, and what was the persons motives. But I suppose for some body as committed to logic as you make yourself out to be, this level of evidence in a criminal court is not high enough for you, you live on a higher plane than the rest of us mere mortals, I bow down to your lofty status, thou with the pseudonym of a god emperor.

[Napoléon]

jonb I've never seen you talk so much absolute tripe.