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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 3:51 pm
(September 8, 2012 at 3:20 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I'm inclined to agree that the Democrats are hardly heroes. There's a lot of self-serving and pandering in that party. There is corruption and graft and whoring to the constituents. I'd never deny it. The thing is, that only applies until you compare them to the Republicans, who have somehow become a party no one in their right mind should ever vote for. There really is practically nothing about the party, or especially its platform, which has any redeeming qualities.
I'm voting Democrat hardly because I love the Democratic Party, but because the Republican Party is terrifying and insane. They aren't the Nazis of 1932, and it isn't really even a close thing, but they might be as close as this country has come in decades to that.
When I compare them to the Republicans, I find myself seeing that the Dems are passing the same BS the GOP has passed since Nixon.
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 4:59 pm
(September 8, 2012 at 3:51 pm)Polaris Wrote: When I compare them to the Republicans, I find myself seeing that the Dems are passing the same BS the GOP has passed since Nixon.
That is, sadly, true on a lot of subjects. But, the Democrats are demonstrably more friendly to science, human welfare, individual rights and secularism. The Republican party has been largely subverted by evangelicals and quasi-libertarian anarcho-capitalists.
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 5:36 pm
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Blanket statement aside, your vitriolic post shows just how much you would care if the shoe was on the other foot.
Be realistic. This is what politics is about. People talk about the issues that affect them and then vote based on that. How different is it for you and the Jesus loves Republicans camp, huh? Are you telling me that you have never heard a Republican claim that babies will die if a Democrat is voted in or other such nonsense. Please do me a favor and realize that most of us can think past the ermagerd headlines you post, so substantiate your blanket statements or prepare to be ridiculed or ignored.
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 5:47 pm
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Not only is this story complete & utter bullshit............. but it's coming from a right-wing site that spends most of it's time investigating ACORN it's actually run by Daniel Epstein, a "former employee" of the Koch bros
Quote:Daniel Epstein, formerly in the Koch general counsel’s office, is now joining the committee as Republican counsel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_a...h_brothers
http://www.pfaw.org/media-center/publica...h-brothers
(September 8, 2012 at 4:59 pm)Ryantology Wrote: That is, sadly, true on a lot of subjects.
No, that is not true, on ANY subject.....
These fascists break the law constantly, get away with it, then turn it around on the democrats and go see they did the saaaame thing, so that meeeeans weeee caaan dooo it tooooo
You can do this with any issue...... let's use this one as an example:
The claim being made is that the hatch act was violated by a "possibly democratic leaning worker" of the FAA that can barely be described as political because all the letter states is facts, the budget might be cut next year, if mitt romney wins, and we will have massive layoffs. That's not opinion, that's not threatening to fire a specific person if they don't vote like you..... those are facts
They twist it, spew lies and hate speech, and say "Obama is threatining to fire the worker's at the FAA if they don't vote for him" (they'll probably come up with a better lie than that).
Meanwhile this exact same law was violated by George W. Bush (I know... what law wasn't, right) which involved 20 million deleted emails, atleast 88 republicans including Karl rove, which invloved the outing of a CIA agent and the unprecedented firing of 7 US district attorney's.
If FOX did bother to report this story they probably reported it with the attitude that the great and honorable leader George W. Bush Jr. was just suffering political attacks from the un-patriotic left
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_...ontroversy
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 6:49 pm
(September 8, 2012 at 3:51 pm)Polaris Wrote: When I compare them to the Republicans, I find myself seeing that the Dems are passing the same BS the GOP has passed since Nixon.
A lot of people said that in 2000 and it's part of why Bush wound up winning the election. So, look at what was accomplished during 8 years of a Democrat in the white house (Clinton) vs. 8 years of what happened with a Republican in a white house.
The biggest terrorist attack in American history? That happened under Bush. The housing market crash and subsequent bailouts? Bush. Billions spent on questionable military actions? Bush.
After seeing what Republicans do when they're in power, I will never say the Democrats are like them. Sure, the party ain't perfect and there's a lot I'd like to change, but the Republican party is turning into the party of Voldemort. As bad as the Dems are, the Republicans are far worse.
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 7:08 pm
(September 8, 2012 at 6:49 pm)TaraJo Wrote: (September 8, 2012 at 3:51 pm)Polaris Wrote: When I compare them to the Republicans, I find myself seeing that the Dems are passing the same BS the GOP has passed since Nixon.
A lot of people said that in 2000 and it's part of why Bush wound up winning the election. So, look at what was accomplished during 8 years of a Democrat in the white house (Clinton) vs. 8 years of what happened with a Republican in a white house.
The biggest terrorist attack in American history? That happened under Bush. The housing market crash and subsequent bailouts? Bush. Billions spent on questionable military actions? Bush.
After seeing what Republicans do when they're in power, I will never say the Democrats are like them. Sure, the party ain't perfect and there's a lot I'd like to change, but the Republican party is turning into the party of Voldemort. As bad as the Dems are, the Republicans are far worse.
The legacy from the Clinton Presidency was economic collapse (well that's what I see we are in now). It's because of the deregulation started under his term that we had the 2006 subprime mortgage crisis that brought down the banking industry and lead to a domino effect....Bush is guilty of wasting hundreds of billions on the War in Iraq and his tax cuts (that did not really do anything one way or the other under his term....they should have ended under his term), money which could have been used as a buffer, but that would have only served to delay the inevitable.
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 8:02 pm
(September 8, 2012 at 7:08 pm)Polaris Wrote: The legacy from the Clinton Presidency was economic collapse (well that's what I see we are in now). It's because of the deregulation started under his term that we had the 2006 subprime mortgage crisis that brought down the banking industry and lead to a domino effect....Bush is guilty of wasting hundreds of billions on the War in Iraq and his tax cuts (that did not really do anything one way or the other under his term....they should have ended under his term), money which could have been used as a buffer, but that would have only served to delay the inevitable.
Yes, the subprime mortgages were what caused this recession, but if you look through American economic history, we always have some crisis every 20-30 years that causes a recession. So if it hadn't been this, something else would have happened. The problem for me isn't so much that we had the crash in the first place as much as how Bush responded to it: give the banks millions in bailouts with no strings attached and do squat to help all the people made homeless because of predatory banking practices.
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 8:37 pm
(September 8, 2012 at 7:08 pm)Polaris Wrote: The legacy from the Clinton Presidency was economic collapse (well that's what I see we are in now). It's because of the deregulation started under his term that we had the 2006 subprime mortgage crisis
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 9:25 pm
(September 8, 2012 at 8:37 pm)cratehorus Wrote: (September 8, 2012 at 7:08 pm)Polaris Wrote: The legacy from the Clinton Presidency was economic collapse (well that's what I see we are in now). It's because of the deregulation started under his term that we had the 2006 subprime mortgage crisis
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RE: Attempted Voter Manipulation By The Democrats
September 8, 2012 at 9:45 pm
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(September 8, 2012 at 9:25 pm)Polaris Wrote: Are you a Blue Dog?
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