To the Moderators, please!

[Lion IRC]

the other camp consists of Christians who believe in the supernatural. I am one who does NOT believe in anything supernatural.

Um - not to take G-C's side ( because he's a fucking idiot ) but how can you call yourself a xtian if you don't believe in the resurrection? How much more "supernatural" can you get than a dead jew coming back to life?

If you reject that particular piece of bullshit why even bother to call yourself a xtian?

Hey Sir Greneknight,
Looks like you are gonna be debating atheists instead.

[Godscreated]

Let's get something straight, I did not agree to a formal debate, I said I would take 'gk' up on his position as a Christian using scriptures.

Let us DO get this straight. So you are willing to debate on an open forum, where there are too many participants that muddle the issue, where you can move as far away from the topic as you like and where you can simply ignore any and all of his arguments or address one or two and walk away claiming victory? And you are NOT willing to debate him on grounds where rules which could and would determine a clear winner - thereby forcing you to face it when you have lost? Coward.

I'm not a coward and am not backing away from anything, I will do what I said. He's the one who claimed he could prove he was a christian through scripture, go back and read if you're interested in the truth.

I will stand by what I said and it's this 'gk' is not a scriptural Christian and I can prove it.

Will you now? Let's see -

Deny you're a Christian, why no, I'm telling you as a fact you are not a Christian.

You are not a Christian, the scriptures prove that

In both cases, you say that GK is not a Christian. Here you say that he is not a SCRIPTURAL Christian. Moving the goalposts much?

You must be quite dense, when I say someone is not a Christian I'm stating they are not one according to scripture, this has always been my position. If you want to get in the argument then get your facts straight. The only reason I used scriptural as an adjective is because 'gk' was saying he was a Christian before admitting he was not a Biblical Christian. He kept saying he was a Christian through several post, until the Christians here called him out on being a scriptural Christian. He's a 13 year old dimwit who wants to push everyone's buttons and you're to dumb to see it. I will not humor him in his endeavor, if you're that gullible go ahead and give him what he seeks, attention, something he probably does not get in life.

Well, joke's on you pal. GK has been saying from the very beginning that he is not a SCRIPTURAL Christian - he is a CULTURAL one. As shown by his repeated and consistent disdain for the scriptures.

I explained this above.

Now, try to actually stand by what you said and prove that he is not a Christian or else show everybody that you are a liar.

I said I would, and have been waiting for the little one to begin, when he realized he got himself in trouble he changed everything, and you fell for it, the 13 year old did you in and why, because you will agree with anyone or thing that is against the God our LORD.
Now read John 3:16, debate is over, one verse and the atheist little boy is done, end of debate, could not have been easier, now he is one of you, not that he has not always been.

We do not need to waste the debate site to do this, a few scriptures and I will be finished with 'gk'.

Oh, the site doesn't mind. Go ahead - waste it.

Ok, I'm not wasting any space on this site on this little person who is just wanting attention, if you're time has little value go ahead and give him what he seeks, to use you for his entertainment.

The only ones you will see me seriously argue with are those who call their selves Christians and do not stand up to a scriptural description of a Christian.

Then stop cowering and seriously argue with him in the formal debate section. That place, is in fact, made for serious debates.

Serious argument with a 13 year old, give me a break, at 13 there is no way he could even understand what serious means, isn't it obvious by his posts.
I was never cowering and for you to agitate things by calling someone a coward shows you immaturity too. Grow up.

[jonb]

Serious argument with a 13 year old, give me a break, at 13 there is no way he could even understand what serious means, isn't it obvious by his posts.
I was never cowering and for you to agitate things by calling someone a coward shows you immaturity too. Grow up.

Is this a deliberate paraphrasing of the catholic church, talking about priests and choir boys?

[genkaus]

I'm not a coward and am not backing away from anything, I will do what I said.

Then accept his challenge and engage him in a formal debate.

You must be quite dense, when I say someone is not a Christian I'm stating they are not one according to scripture, this has always been my position. If you want to get in the argument then get your facts straight. The only reason I used scriptural as an adjective is because 'gk' was saying he was a Christian before admitting he was not a Biblical Christian. He kept saying he was a Christian through several post, until the Christians here called him out on being a scriptural Christian. He's a 13 year old dimwit who wants to push everyone's buttons and you're to dumb to see it. I will not humor him in his endeavor, if you're that gullible go ahead and give him what he seeks, attention, something he probably does not get in life.

Then stand by your words and prove that in a formal debate. Prove it to him - and to others - that if you are not a scriptural christian, then you are not a christian at all. I can see that he is pushing your buttons, but you started out by offering to debate and now are unwilling to engage in a formal one.

I said I would, and have been waiting for the little one to begin, when he realized he got himself in trouble he changed everything, and you fell for it, the 13 year old did you in and why, because you will agree with anyone or thing that is against the God our LORD.

And what exactly did he change? He seems quite ready to engage. He went as far as to contact the moderators. You are the one pussyfooting around.

Now read John 3:16, debate is over, one verse and the atheist little boy is done, end of debate, could not have been easier, now he is one of you, not that he has not always been.

Apparently you don't understand how a debate works. The topic is that someone can be a Christian while considering your scripture to be bullshit. Your argument from scripture isn't exactly effective.

Ok, I'm not wasting any space on this site on this little person who is just wanting attention, if you're time has little value go ahead and give him what he seeks, to use you for his entertainment.

Excuses, excuses. Why would I debate him? I don't disagree with his position.

Serious argument with a 13 year old, give me a break, at 13 there is no way he could even understand what serious means, isn't it obvious by his posts.

Argument from age - that's a rare one on this forum.

I was never cowering and for you to agitate things by calling someone a coward shows you immaturity too. Grow up.

Cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck.....

(BTW, mods, we really need a chicken smiley).

[Godscreated]

I made myself quite clear on what 'gk' said in past post, and also what I said in past post. There is no need to keep beating the dead horse, I will not debate him in a formal debate, period. There is no need to, humor the little boy if you wish, his ego is big enough in my opinion, waste your day, it's no skin off my teeth. I've made my position and have no interest to humor you anymore, look to others to entertain yourself.

[genkaus]

I made myself quite clear on what 'gk' said in past post, and also what I said in past post. There is no need to keep beating the dead horse, I will not debate him in a formal debate, period. There is no need to, humor the little boy if you wish, his ego is big enough in my opinion, waste your day, it's no skin off my teeth. I've made my position and have no interest to humor you anymore, look to others to entertain yourself.

You have made yourself quite clear. Transparent, actually.

You are afraid to enter any debate where you'd have to argue logically and rationally and where your usual apologist bullshit won't work. Actually, it doesn't work anywhere, but in a formal debate, you won't even be able to pretend that it works. So, even though your opponent would be just a thirteen year old boy and the subject would be one over which you claim such mastery, you still can't bring yourself to put your money where your mouth his. Cowardly, sir, too cowardly by half.

[greneknight]

Folks, look at this post and see if it was wrong of me to conclude that Godschild wanted to have a debate with me:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-14612-po...#pid336363

I took him at his word. Now, it looks like he's a coward.

If that's not all, Lion then suggested that a group of them (these cowardly Christians) should debate me alone. I agreed to his suggestion. See this post:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-14793-po...#pid336529

And now, not one of them dares to take part in a debate with me. This is hilarious. If I am a mistaken little child or (as Godschild called me on another thread) hairless kid, surely it would be the obligation of older and more mature Christians to debate with me and let me know where I've gone wrong.

On this thread, teaearlsgrey mentioned that someone once said that "godschild could not even argue his way out of a MacDonald's". I think that's really funny and I can see it now.

Let it go down in history that godschild challenged a 13 year old to a debate. When I contacted Tiberius who informed me that we have a Formal Debate forum on AF, and I wanted to set the debate going, Lion suggested having a group of Christians fighting me alone. I agreed to the suggestion and now godschild flees together with Lion and the rest of them.

Frankly, the moderators should have a special CHICKEN logo that sticks on all their posts. I mean to challenge a 13 year old to a debate and when I have contacted the moderators, come up with a motion for debate and even agreed to their suggestion that they form a group to argue against me alone, and yet they all chicken out - this must be the height of cowardice.

I'm not a good debater nor am I skilled in the Bible and so the motion may not be easy for me. Since I'm alleging that the Bible contains deliberate lies, the onus is on me to prove lies and not just errors. I can't pick one of the fanciful stories in the Bible because those aren't lies. The Bible writers probably believe they're true. Errors but not lies. So it's not an easy onus to discharge. Yes, I'm prepared to argue with a whole horde of cowardly Christian adults and I am persuaded I can prove that the Bible contains deliberate lies.

The fact that this group of Christians chicken out publicly in a debate is an admission that they KNOW I am right and they know the Bible contains untruths and deliberate lies. I will take this cowardly chickening out as an admission that I'm right.

This is disgraceful. Did not Paul in one of his epistles command Christians to offer a ready defence of their faith? Now, a 13 year old is challenging you to a debate on the truth of the Bible and you chicken out? You said I'm not a scriptural Christian. What is the big deal about the Bible if not a single adult Christian or even a whole group of them dare to debate with a 13 year old to defend the blooming book.

Boo hoo! Poor Bible. It has no defenders!!! What a disgraceful book! Next time I hear the term "Bible-believing Christian", I'm going to laugh my head off and tell everyone that's synonymous with "a DISHONEST COWARD".

Godschild, Lion and all the other cowards, please don't mention the Bible again. If you care for its honour, let us have the debate. Until you do, we shall all accept that it's a disgraceful book that contains untruths and deliberate lies and nobody would stoop to defend it.

Sir Greneknight, Knight of the Round Table.

[Ben Davis]

Now read John 3:16, debate is over

John 3:16? I prefer Austin 3:16.

[Reforged]

Ok, could someone lock everyone else but Grene and Godschild out? This is just getting ridiculous.
I came here to watch two morons debate about fairytales and I don't feel I'm getting my moneys worth.
If the tediousnous of this thread were to increase by anymore it'd tear the universe asunder.

[genkaus]

Ok, could someone lock everyone else but Grene and Godschild out? This is just getting ridiculous.
I came here to watch two morons debate about fairytales and I don't feel I'm getting my moneys worth.
If the tediousnous of this thread were to increase by anymore it'd tear the universe asunder.

But haven't you been reading? You are not getting a debate. GC has already chickened out.