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God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(October 1, 2012 at 11:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(October 1, 2012 at 11:23 pm)Drich Wrote: Admittly so. why? Because there is nothing anyone can offer that will trump what God has given me.

Then what is there to fear? What can be the harm in opening your mind to other things, since what you believe your god has given you trumps all else? If your faith is truly unimpeachable, it cannot possibly be threatened in any way, surely?

I have lived gthe first half of my life with my mind open to your current truth. It left me wanting. So I went out and found what I wanted.

It's like being lactose intollerent, and being made to drink milk. Then i find soy milk, and realize this is what i have been looking for. why would I want to go back to the 'milk' that doesn't sit well with me, when I can have something I can digest?
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RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(October 2, 2012 at 8:43 am)Drich Wrote: I have lived gthe first half of my life with my mind open to your current truth. It left me wanting. So I went out and found what I wanted.
You said it, bro!
You found what YOU wanted. That doesn't mean you found the reality.
You found something that sets your mind at ease. Something that you mind enjoys.
That doesn't mean that it will do anything for other minds. meh.... my mind is perfectly at ease in the assumption that there are no divine entities watching over us and governing all the Universe.
This is one of the great differences between atheists/agnostics and theists/deists... And this is why atheists tend to think that theists are just gullible people. You want to find some thing...... and religious people provide you with something that seems to fit the bill.
There's nothing wrong with that.... but, please, don't try to shove it down other people's throats... it might come out in a jet of regurgitated crap.... and that's when atheists turn anti-theists.


PS: real life to stupid metaphor to real life in one post.... this is a first for me!
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RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(October 2, 2012 at 8:43 am)Drich Wrote:
(October 1, 2012 at 11:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then what is there to fear? What can be the harm in opening your mind to other things, since what you believe your god has given you trumps all else? If your faith is truly unimpeachable, it cannot possibly be threatened in any way, surely?

I have lived gthe first half of my life with my mind open to your current truth. It left me wanting. So I went out and found what I wanted.

It's like being lactose intollerent, and being made to drink milk. Then i find soy milk, and realize this is what i have been looking for. why would I want to go back to the 'milk' that doesn't sit well with me, when I can have something I can digest?

Except that you declared your faith, and whatever else you imagine you get out of all this, unassailable. Thus there cannot be any danger of indigestion, surely? As a matter of interest, if the way you describe yourself here is an accurate portrayal, then you and I are polar opposites. Whereas you deem yourself an incurable xtian, I am an incurable atheist. The difference is I actually expose myself to researching this stuff*; I know that my (lack of) faith is safely locked away and untouchable, so there can never be a conflict of ideologies. Why is the idea of entertaining some other 'truth' - which is a nonsensical concept but one which I shall roll with for the sake of discussion - so threatening to you?



* I also expose myself while researching this stuff, but that's nobody's business except mine and my parole officer's.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
Congratulations Drich, you're now in the league of hypocrites apologists who expect us to accept their "rational" arguments as proof of Christianity when they themselves were never convinced of Christianity by reason, but by subjective feelings that can just as easily justify Mormonism, Isalm, or atheism.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(October 2, 2012 at 8:43 am)Drich Wrote:
(October 1, 2012 at 11:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then what is there to fear? What can be the harm in opening your mind to other things, since what you believe your god has given you trumps all else? If your faith is truly unimpeachable, it cannot possibly be threatened in any way, surely?

I have lived gthe first half of my life with my mind open to your current truth. It left me wanting. So I went out and found what I wanted.

It's like being lactose intollerent, and being made to drink milk. Then i find soy milk, and realize this is what i have been looking for. why would I want to go back to the 'milk' that doesn't sit well with me, when I can have something I can digest?

Quote:I have lived gthe first half of my life with my mind open to your current truth. It left me wanting. So I went out and found what I wanted.

And that is only evidence of your own gullibility. If you want to believe something badly enough, you will. You were "empty" because you couldn't accept yourself, not because of any real god.

When we are young we constantly want to find "something" to fill us. It can be anything from a job and or title, to a relationship, to money, and or a sense of "spirituality"(hate that fucking word). And all those are stupid reasons to hold onto something.

Muslims, Jews and Hindus find what they want too, but yet you don't believe in their god.

God fills you? No you fill your head with the idea, the crutch of a naked assertion because it "feels right".

I don't need anything to fill me because I don't create any form of utopia in my head just to feel better. I know that no label, no amount of money, no job title, no romantic relationship, NOTHING is worth replacing my autonomy with false hope and wishful thinking just to fool myself into feeling better.

There is no cure all to life, life is both up and down and good and bad, and instead of plopping up vacuous words like "fullfillment", I simply just live my life and enjoy the ups and deal with the downs instead of dreaming up deulusions to gloss over reality.

I used to do what you claim to have done. I wanted ANYTHING to "complete" me. That is just plain stupid. It wasn't untill I stopped looking to be something or fill myself with something, and just be myself, all my emotional baggage I had when I did care, stopped affecting me.

I still have pain in my life, but that will happen to the richest and poorist and nothing ever will "fill" that reality to the point of stopping it. Reality is not a comic book and there was never a god selectively allowing or stopping suffering.

One can only be themselves and do their best and cope with life's ups and downs the best they can. "Filling" yourself with something is not being yourself, it is merely giving yourself an emotional crutch.

I occupy my time with things I like to do that I find enjoyment in. But I don't pretend that there is magic to that feeling or that because of what I do that a god is involved. I can have a sense of enjoyment without making it some comic book delusion.

I have the same emotions and range of feeling you do, as do all 7 billion of os. The only difference is that I don't make life into a childish game of dungeons and dragons.
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