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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Everyone's heard of the misconception about atheists that we're 'angry at god,' right? Well, in my case, it started out that way. I went through a very painful point in my life and I couldn't find an answer I could bring myself to believe when I asked how god could allow it to happen.
Since then, though, I've had a deal with any supernatural being out there: prove to me that you exist and I'll serve you. So far, nobody has taken me up on that offer, so I see no reason to believe in any supernatural being.
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 6:37 pm
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(October 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm)IATIA Wrote: Adam and Eve had two kids, Cain and Able, Cain killed able and was sent to the land of nod where he took a wife. if there are only four people on earth, who was Cain fucking? Adam lived 930 years (Genesis 5.5) and fathered many kids (Genesis 5.4), so Cain could marry one of his sisters, which was not against God's laws yet (not until Moses was incest made bad).
Presumably by the same logic, Cain could bang with his brothers also since homosexuality only became a sin later too I think (not mentioned until 2067 BC re Soddom, Genesis 13-19).
So the original sin of obtaining knowledge was naughty, but humping your sister, and possibly your brother, was conventionally not for over 1,000 years.
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm
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(October 14, 2012 at 6:11 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Everyone's heard of the misconception about atheists that we're 'angry at god,' right? Well, in my case, it started out that way. I went through a very painful point in my life and I couldn't find an answer I could bring myself to believe when I asked how god could allow it to happen.
Since then, though, I've had a deal with any supernatural being out there: prove to me that you exist and I'll serve you. So far, nobody has taken me up on that offer, so I see no reason to believe in any supernatural being.
IF there were a god I could not be as forgiving of it as you seem to be. It would not be able to buy me off by just sorting out my problems. This is also my problem with christians/mohammedans they would actually be happy, to let others burn for all eternity in ovens as long as they are ok, their thinking sickens me.
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 7:02 pm
(October 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm)jonb Wrote: (October 14, 2012 at 6:11 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Everyone's heard of the misconception about atheists that we're 'angry at god,' right? Well, in my case, it started out that way. I went through a very painful point in my life and I couldn't find an answer I could bring myself to believe when I asked how god could allow it to happen.
Since then, though, I've had a deal with any supernatural being out there: prove to me that you exist and I'll serve you. So far, nobody has taken me up on that offer, so I see no reason to believe in any supernatural being.
IF there were a god I could not be as forgiving of it as you seem to be. It would not be able to buy me off by just sorting out my problems. This is also my problem with christians/mohammedans they would actually be happy, to let others burn for all eternity in ovens as long as they are ok, their thinking sickens me.
Well, my personal problems, all that did was open my mind to the idea that there might not be a god. Before that, gods existence was something that was always a given for me; I just never questioned it until then. When I opened my mind to that idea, I couldn't expel that idea even if I wanted to (and I don't think I would want to anyway).
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Because I have a conscience, and higher standards for for goodness and decency.
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 7:14 pm
(October 14, 2012 at 7:02 pm)TaraJo Wrote: When I opened my mind to that idea, I couldn't expel that idea even if I wanted to (and I don't think I would want to anyway).
I find it amazing, the more we shine light on their dogmas, the more filthy it gets. I can see why they may think we are so often angry, it is like when I changed my children's nappies, I had to turn my nose up. It is not anger, its just disgust at the smell.
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I never believed bible stories. I actually really resent that I wasted so much time trying to make sense of them or fudge them when I was being far more intelligent than I realised by questioning them.
For a few years, I said I believed in God but not the bible, but really only as a concession.....I just thought you were supposed to, and simply stopped my disbelief at the Bible, but wasn't that motivated to carry on through to God himself. Then I started getting into science and the universe and what not, and gradually realised that there isn't a mystery to be resolved anymore. God is the answer to a question nobody's asking. And then the floodgates opened, I suddenly realised the whole thing was ludicrous, arrogant, anthropocentric, and most of all an infinitely less interesting explanation than the universe itself, as science reveals it.
Then I guess the final nail in the coffin was the bolstering of evolutionary theory, namely the second chapter of The Selfish Gene, 'The Replicators'. I still read it regularly, it's the most fantastic description of evolution I've ever seen. It took me from believer-because-I-assume-science-is-probably-right, to understander. I now understand that there really isn't a good reason that evolution wouldn't happen, and the burden of proof shifts to those attempting to disprove it. Now I find it impossible to believe I could ever change my mind, I really think that chapter solidified my atheism for life.
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 7:33 pm
(October 14, 2012 at 6:37 pm)Doubting_Thomas Wrote: Adam lived 930 years (Genesis 5.5) and fathered many kids (Genesis 5.4), so Cain could marry one of his sisters, which was not against God's laws yet (not until Moses was incest made bad).
Adam lived to the ripe old age of 75. (930/12.38)
The sisters were not yet born.
Why were the sisters exiled to nod?
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 9:50 pm
I am an atheist because none of these fuckwitted theists have ever produced the slightest bit of evidence that their god is real.
After a while, one detects the pattern.
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RE: Why are YOU an Atheist?
October 14, 2012 at 10:17 pm
(October 14, 2012 at 6:37 pm)Doubting_Thomas Wrote: Cain could marry one of his sisters, which was not against God's laws yet (not until Moses was incest made bad).
My Bold
What of Lot and his daughters?
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