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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Isn't Elohim plural? Then there's the god character speaking in plurals, as in "let us make man in our image", as well as condemning the worship of rival gods - Baal springs to mind.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 6:50 pm
(November 9, 2012 at 6:41 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Isn't Elohim plural? Then there's the god character speaking in plurals, as in "let us make man in our image", as well as condemning the worship of rival gods - Baal springs to mind. Christians believe that there is one God, but this God has three points of conscious (or is it points of consciousness...whichever is proper). "let us make man in our image" would be a reference to God's trinitarian nature
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 6:56 pm
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This is what I meant before about shuffling the rules so as to define the conclusion into existence. The xtian religion is strictly monotheistic; so every reference in the Jewish texts from which it's derived that mention a plurality of gods need to be massaged and interpreted to mean one god. An interesting and revealing way to eat your cake and have it on your plate at the same time.
Regardless, it doesn't touch upon the rival gods thing, which is part of the "many gods" subject.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 7:00 pm
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(November 9, 2012 at 6:56 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Regardless, it doesn't touch upon the rival gods thing, which is part of the "many gods" subject.
Baal was thought to be a god and worshipped as one, but the Bible teaches that there aren't any gods besides Yahweh.
Isaiah 46:9–10 (RSV) — 9 remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me,10 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’
(November 9, 2012 at 6:56 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The xtian religion is strictly monotheistic; so every reference in the Jewish texts from which it's derived that mention a plurality of gods need to be massaged and interpreted to mean one god. You seem to be saying that you would not have deduced that there are multiple "persons" within God from a plain reading of the Hebrew scripture.
I agree with you, one wouldn't have come to that conclusion which makes the conversion of sincere, passionate Jews into belief in Jesus and the Holy Spirit as God a phenomenal testimony to the truth of it...something like that wouldn't have been just thought up. The best explanation for the origin for the disciples belief is that they really did witness a resurrection of Jesus which forced them to alter their view of God.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 7:06 pm
The bible also 'teaches' that the god character is a jealous god, that we shall not have any gods before it. When you have one half of the book contradicting the other half, it's no wonder you get people shedding blood over what the damn thing is supposed to mean.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 10:19 pm
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...and this is how they sound to me.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Quote:Baal was thought to be a god and worshipped as one, but the Bible teaches that there aren't any gods besides Yahweh.
Baal's followers probably thought the same about Yahweh. If they won, we'd probably have a sacred book that claims there is no god other than Baal.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 9, 2012 at 11:27 pm
(November 9, 2012 at 11:05 pm)Kirbmarc Wrote: Quote:Baal was thought to be a god and worshipped as one, but the Bible teaches that there aren't any gods besides Yahweh.
Baal's followers probably thought the same about Yahweh. If they won, we'd probably have a sacred book that claims there is no god other than Baal.
There probably is one somewhere.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 10, 2012 at 3:56 am
(November 9, 2012 at 11:05 pm)Kirbmarc Wrote: Quote:Baal was thought to be a god and worshipped as one, but the Bible teaches that there aren't any gods besides Yahweh.
Baal's followers probably thought the same about Yahweh. If they won, we'd probably have a sacred book that claims there is no god other than Baal.
Ah, seems someone does not read the Bible, the Baal worshipers in mentioned in the book of Joshua believed in the God of Israel. Simple to understand when one will open the book and read.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 10, 2012 at 4:02 am
(November 10, 2012 at 3:56 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 9, 2012 at 11:05 pm)Kirbmarc Wrote: Baal's followers probably thought the same about Yahweh. If they won, we'd probably have a sacred book that claims there is no god other than Baal.
Ah, seems someone does not read the Bible, the Baal worshipers in mentioned in the book of Joshua believed in the God of Israel. Simple to understand when one will open the book and read.
jesus-tap-dancing-christ ... someone explain this to Godspile.
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