As a christian, how did you handle the problems with the Tower of Babel?

[pocaracas]

In short the Bible is a code that explains those who had a higher consciousness were made to return to a lower level because they agreed to help the lower level rise up higher. Once they put in their time, and come to the end of their generation or doing their time, they can return. I returned!

You reached nirvana and came back, huh?...
Congratz!

[xpastor]

As with so many of the bible stories, from Genesis onward, the Babel Incident bears all the hallmarks of primitive man trying to speculate about their world. "Why are there people who speak other languages? What if..." and a myth is born. It takes a few thousand years of spin and a special type of mindset to take that seemingly innocent speculation and turn it into a real historical event.

Right on. When I started off as a liberal Christian, I accepted the assessment of liberal theologians and took the Babel story for exactly what it is: a just so story to explain the manifold languages in the world, and I never thought of it again, so I didn't worry about whether it had really happened.

Total fundamentalists got no sense of literary genre. I suspect the original author wrote the bit about the talking donkey as fable like Aesop rather than history. Ditto for the science fiction of the Jonah story.

[Brakeman]

the tower of babel means the tower of confusion: There is no literal tower but the meaning of this story is God decided if man could overcome the confusion he had of God he would repent (return) to his original state of consciousness which was God consciousness

Interesting theory, but when the author was writing the story, he failed to put in the correct cues to give the reader the understanding that the story was meant to be taken allegorically. Thus, it is a mistake in the communication attempt by the authors, whose reputation as a divinely inspired author disintegrates if their words are not perfect communications of god. If the story is not to be read at face value then one needs a magic decoder ring, which you do not have, only baseless assertions. I could claim that what god means in this story is to instruct man to wash the underside of his car after a day at the beach and I would have just as much evidence for my position as you do for yours - none, just a bare assertion.

: Since man's purpose is to uplift the lower levels of consciousness, their desire to leave this work and return was prohibited

Citation needed, where does the bible state man's purpose as such?
Whose level of consciousness and how do you define it?
Why would return be prohibited? DNF

Jesus explain those who are outside of the Kingdom (those who have not returned to the inner state of God consciousness) are kept blind so they can't repent or return.

Citation seriously needed! What verse?

In short the Bible is a code.

Why would a loving god who is going to punish us if we do wrong, give us his rules in code?
Can you imagine a father who beats his children when they disobey him, but he only gives them instructions in a code they don't understand clearly.
What a fucking ass!!!

[Darkstar]

the tower of babel means the tower of confusion: There is no literal tower

Because anything that doesn't make sense was suddenly an obvious allegory the whole time.

but the meaning of this story is God decided if man could overcome the confusion he had of God he would repent (return) to his original state of consciousness which was God consciousness:

How can someone overcome their "confusion of god"? Isn't he supposed to be unknowable? And I thought this "god consciousness" would be more akin to the knowledge after eating the forbidden fruit, which wasn't the original state.

Since man's purpose is to uplift the lower levels of consciousness, their desire to leave this work and return was prohibited just like a person wouldn't be able to leave the military just because he didn't want to finish his course. Jesus explain those who are outside of the Kingdom (those who have not returned to the inner state of God consciousness) are kept blind so they can't repent or return. In short the Bible is a code that explains those who had a higher consciousness were made to return to a lower level because they agreed to help the lower level rise up higher.

I'm not sure how to respond to this...

Once they put in their time, and come to the end of their generation or doing their time, they can return. I returned!

You know what else has returned? This thread. From the underworld.

[Minimalist]

the tower of babel means the tower of confusion: There is no literal tower but the meaning of this story is God decided if man could overcome the confusion he had of God he would repent (return) to his original state of consciousness which was God consciousness:

Yeah...and your 'god' is so fucking inept at communication that he requires you to explain his actions.

Thanks for your absurd input.

[tokutter]

When you guys were christian, how did you handle the incongruities of the Tower of Babel story?

You know..
Heaven is in the sky and that bronze age men built a tower super high. God was afraid that mankind might sneak into heaven.

All of mankind spoke one language before the tower building and all known languages were created immediately proceeding the tiff.

Where the h*ll is the Tower?

How high could it have really been? If it was only 3 or 4 stories high, why would god have cared when he supposedly knew that in about four thousand more years mankind would make it beyond the moon.

the tower of babel means the tower of confusion: There is no literal tower but the meaning of this story is God decided if man could overcome the confusion he had of God he would repent (return) to his original state of consciousness which was God consciousness: Since man's purpose is to uplift the lower levels of consciousness, their desire to leave this work and return was prohibited just like a person wouldn't be able to leave the military just because he didn't want to finish his course. Jesus explain those who are outside of the Kingdom (those who have not returned to the inner state of God consciousness) are kept blind so they can't repent or return. In short the Bible is a code that explains those who had a higher consciousness were made to return to a lower level because they agreed to help the lower level rise up higher. Once they put in their time, and come to the end of their generation or doing their time, they can return. I returned!

How bout you do a 180 and return yet again


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[freedomfromforum]

I'm not sure how the Christians handle it,
but the "religion of peace" has a way...

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[Cyberman]

I'm still trying to unpack that bit about "God" wants man to repent etc, yet if you're outside "the Kingdom" you're kept blind so you can't repent. That's like pushing someone over, then telling them to stand up while putting your foot on their head so they can't move and taunting them for it. This "God" character is insane.

[max-greece]

I'm still trying to unpack that bit about "God" wants man to repent etc, yet if you're outside "the Kingdom" you're kept blind so you can't repent. That's like pushing someone over, then telling them to stand up while putting your foot on their head so they can't move and taunting them for it. This "God" character is insane.

This. What the fuck is this man talking about? I'll finish this bottle of whiskey and see if it starts to make sense. If it does I'll go to bed.

[Cyberman]

Think I'll join you. With the whiskey, I mean. Only this whiskey's brandy.