Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?

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God and jesus spoke to well over a million people as chronicled in the bible, but in today's modern world god seems to only speak to his people in warm, fuzzy, peace feelings. Why the abrupt change? Are christians less apt to make up verbal conversations for their imaginary lord thesedays?

Ever heard of the "Jerusalem Syndrome"?

There is a "special" section in the Jerusalem psychiatry for people who claim to be the messiah, or that god talks to them, or that god talks through them...............

There’s a joke in psychiatry: If you talk to God, it’s called praying; if God talks to you, you’re nuts. In Jerusalem, God seems to be particularly chatty around Easter, Passover, and Christmas—the peak seasons for the syndrome. It affects an estimated 50 to 100 tourists each year, the overwhelming majority of whom are evangelical Christians. Some of these cases simply involve tourists becoming momentarily overwhelmed by the religious history of the Holy City, finding themselves discombobulated after an afternoon at the Wailing Wall or experiencing a tsunami of obsessive thoughts after walking the Stations of the Cross. But more severe cases can lead otherwise normal housewives from Dallas or healthy tool-and-die manufacturers from Toledo to hear the voices of angels or fashion the bedsheets of their hotel rooms into makeshift togas and disappear into the Old City babbling prophecy.

Lichtenberg estimates that, in two decades at Herzog, the number of false prophets and self-appointed redeemers he has treated is in the low three figures. In other words, if and when the true Messiah does return (or show up for the first time, depending on what you believe), Lichtenberg is in an ideal spot to be the guy who greets Him.

source: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2012/02/ff...msyndrome/

[John V]

Are you people stupid or just reading too fast? Didja miss Ryantology's claim that people today generally don't believe miracles are real?

[Kirbmarc]

Er, that Ryantology's assertion that "humanity (in general, certainly not in entirety) is not as ignorant as it was two thousand years ago and we understand miracles are not real" doesn't seem to be accurate. Thought

Actually you are right, John. Most of humanity is almost as ignorant as it was two thousand years ago. Most people don't even know how television or cars work, yet they use them all the time. To say nothing about computers: most computer users seem to think that they're powered by some sort of black magic.

Most of us even know less about nature than people who lived two thousands years ago did. At least goat herders had an idea of how the process of breeding new species works. Most people today couldn't tell apart an Angora goat from a Cashmere.

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Are you people stupid or just reading too fast? Didja miss Ryantology's claim that people today generally don't believe miracles are real?

I read the first post of this thread.
With Brakemans question - so I gave my reply to him.

This planet turns arround the berry field within the sun`s gravitational field and not arround your ego.

[John V]

We live in a hyperbolic culture where the word 'miracle' means 'unlikely' instead of 'impossible' and applies to even the most mundane occurrences. I found my car keys, it's a miracle. He hit that 3 at the buzzer, it's a miracle and look, he's praising Jesus.

No, that's not what the article was referring to.

Yawn. Show me someone walking on water. Let's hear that bellowing voice of God.

Funny that there are no biblical miracles in an age where such nonsense can be explained (and debunked) scientificially.

It's not strange at all. As noted, in the Bible centuries go by with no mention of miracles.

Because of the residue of Christianity's poison, lots of Americans pay lip service to the idea of believing in miracles. How do you think they would react to someone, one day, out of nowhere, walking on water, reviving the dead and calling himself Jesus? Do you think 80% of Americans would blindly accept that Jesus was back? Or do you think almost all of us would ask a lot of very tough questions and reserve judgement, while (correctly) writing off the mindless acceptance as lunacy?

What percent of people do you think accepted Jesus' miracles back then, and what is your evidence for that number? As far as I can tell, most people of the day just went about their daily lives.

[Chas]

Exactly as many miracles occur today as ever did in the past.


None.

[Ryantology]

Actually you are right, John. Most of humanity is almost as ignorant as it was two thousand years ago. Most people don't even know how television or cars work, yet they use them all the time. To say nothing about computers: most computer users seem to think that they're powered by some sort of black magic.

The difference is that, even if one does not know how a TV works, nobody thinks it is magic. There's an understanding that it works according to specific rules, even if in the heat of anger or frustration they act like they don't.

Most of us even know less about nature than people who lived two thousands years ago did. At least goat herders had an idea of how the process of breeding new species works. Most people today couldn't tell apart an Angora goat from a Cashmere.

I sincerely doubt most people, at any point in history, could tell apart most specifically similar things, no matter what they are. Only those familiar with such subjects usually can do so. Nobody can know all about everything.

If I can't tell two breeds of cat apart, that does not make me more ignorant than someone who can, yet thinks that thunder is God smiting someone in anger.

[Chas]

Exactly as many miracles occur today as ever did in the past.


None.

[Kirbmarc]

If I can't tell two breeds of cat apart, that does not make me more ignorant than someone who can, yet thinks that thunder is God smiting someone in anger.

Of course not. But I'm talking about the general public, people who believe in astrology, or miracles, just because they saw a program on TV.

Just because some of us are less ignorant it doesn't mean that most of us are.

[Ryantology]

[quote='Ryantology' pid='366906' dateline='1354051427']No, that's not what the article was referring to.

The article did not specify which kinds of miracles people believe in. It was "miracles from God", which can be pretty much anything at all and usually is.

It's not strange at all. As noted, in the Bible centuries go by with no mention of miracles.

It's been twenty centuries, John. Are there gaps that wide in the Bible? Obviously, not very frequently so. What a cop out.

What percent of people do you think accepted Jesus' miracles back then, and what is your evidence for that number? As far as I can tell, most people of the day just went about their daily lives.

Enough people were fooled by lies, nonsense and ignorance that we have 2000 years of a religion founded on it. Call me nuts but I do not think that could happen today.