Avoiding questions

[Minimalist]

The whole "Don't throw your pearls of wisdom before swine." Command Christ issued.

Evidence that your godboy ever existed? Nope.

Evidence that he ever said anything? Nope.


All fictional characters have words put into their mouths by the authors of those stories. Your boy is just one more example.

[Drich]

When you are on this forum and someone asks you a question about the holy bible

This is the question asked during the above situation:

which one do you use to refer to?

I've answer this like 10 times for you Read carfully because it will be the last time:

IT DEPENDS ON WHO I AM SPEAKING TO, AND IT DEPENDS ON THE QUESTION ASKED. For someone SLOW or with little to no experience in the bible I will use the easy to read version. It is not a direct translation (not a holy bible) but here principles are more important to grasp that the idea of scriptural purity. For someone with a christian back ground or for someone who has a question based on a specific interpertation of a word i will use the Blue letter or JKV or NKJV or even the Amlified depending on the topic and if the question can be answered directly off page or if we have to go back to the greek or hebrew.

If this still does not answer your question then may I suggest you answer my questions before you bother posting again.

Who is it you understand the bible to be translated.

Did we somehow start with the King James and each subsequent version is a different interpertation of the material the King james was translated from or was each subsequent version just a different interpertation of the KJV?

Why is this important? Do you believe any english bible to be the infalliable word of God?

Do you believe we were orginally given the bible in english? If not where did the bible come from?

Why does my 'faith' have to fit your paradyme of Christianity? Why do I have to only have one bible? What country do you live in the All Christians are mandated to only use one bible? Then what is your obsession over this?

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What you said:

The whole "Don't throw your pearls of wisdom before swine." Command Christ issued.

Evidence that your godboy ever existed? Nope.

Evidence that he ever said anything? Nope.


All fictional characters have words put into their mouths by the authors of those stories. Your boy is just one more example.

What I read: oink, oink, oink...

[Angrboda]

What you said:

Evidence that your godboy ever existed? Nope.

Evidence that he ever said anything? Nope.


All fictional characters have words put into their mouths by the authors of those stories. Your boy is just one more example.

What I read: oink, oink, oink...

[ThomM]

Why does my 'faith' have to fit your paradyme of Christianity? Why do I have to only have one bible? What country do you live in the All Christians are mandated to only use one bible? Then what is your obsession over this?


Obviously - your christinsanity does not have to match that of others.

Christinsanity is a Smorgasbord religion - with the "believers" choosing the points in which to beleive - and rejecting what they do not agree with - making it a personal work in progress - which is simply MORE proof that it is nonsense.

If the god were real - it would establish a single unified acceptance of its reality - but no such thing exists. And worse - it is NOT the only possible claim regarding higher powers as well - there are literally Thousands of them

And for a logical person - how does a person wade through this quagmire of gods and beliefs ? Well - while there are those who claim that you cannot prove a god dioes not exist - that is simply NOT TRUE. Gods of religions are not a simple generic higher power - that might or might not have done anything. THere are specific claims made about gods of religions - and one can TEST those claims to see if they ALL can be true. IF they cannot be - then the god of that religion is not true as well.

AND that is where the variability of christinsanity comes in - because KNOWING that no being could possible fulfill all of the contradictory and impossible claims made in the bible alone - an xtian must either disregard lots of what is there - or simply make up his own list of what he will accept.

[Napoléon]

What I read: oink, oink, oink...

Suddenly shit starts to make sense.

[Waratah]

When you are on this forum and someone asks you a question about the holy bible

This is the question asked during the above situation:

which one do you use to refer to?

I've answer this like 10 times for you Read carfully because it will be the last time:

No you have not. Liar. I have not even asked this particular question 10 times. You are avoiding the question. It was YOU who said you would tell me WHICH ONE(single unit, understand) you would use in a particular situation with a question.

IT DEPENDS ON WHO I AM SPEAKING TO, AND IT DEPENDS ON THE QUESTION ASKED.

What if you are not talking to anyone and no question is being asked, which bible would you use for yourself?

For someone SLOW or with little to no experience in the bible I will use the easy to read version. It is not a direct translation (not a holy bible) but here principles are more important to grasp that the idea of scriptural purity. For someone with a christian back ground or for someone who has a question based on a specific interpertation of a word i will use the Blue letter or JKV or NKJV or even the Amlified depending on the topic and if the question can be answered directly off page or if we have to go back to the greek or hebrew.

If this still does not answer your question then may I suggest you answer my questions before you bother posting again.

The "Blue letter" is not a version of a holy bible, it is a holy bible tool. On the blue letter website it has a list of version with just abbreviations. Could you please tell us what the abbreviations mean
KJV
NKJV
NLT
NIV
ESV
RVR
NASB
RSV
ASV
YLT
DBY
WEB
HNV
VUL
WLC(Hebrew)
LXX(Greek)
mGNT(Greek)
TR(Greek)

Do you know how many versions of the bible are?(approximation is okay)

Who is it you understand the bible to be translated.

Do not understand the question.

Did we somehow start with the King James and each subsequent version is a different interpertation of the material the King james was translated from or was each subsequent version just a different interpertation of the KJV?

No

Why is this important?

It is not important, it is just amazing why it is so hard for me to know exactly which version you use. I understand you use different versions for different situations. I am trying to know which version you use if someone on this forum asks you a question about the holy bible.

Do you believe any english bible to be the infalliable word of God?

No, I do not believe in the bible or god.

Do you believe we were orginally given the bible in english?

No

If not where did the bible come from?

I do not know.

Why does my 'faith' have to fit your paradyme of Christianity?

It does not. It was YOU who said GIVE ME A SITUATION AND QUESTION AND YOU WOULD TELL ME WHICH VERSION. I fitted my question to what you said you needed to answer the question. It is your continual movement of goal posts and reluctance to answer the question.

Why do I have to only have one bible?

You were the one who said that you would use a particular bible for a given situation and question.

What country do you live in the All Christians are mandated to only use one bible?

It is a silly and irrelevant question, but I will play along with you. None.

Then what is your obsession over this?

To me it started out as a simple question. Then you gave a smart ass response and not an answer to the question. You have said many times now that you use many bibles, UNDERSTOOD. It could have been quite simple for you to explain this from the very first time I asked my original question. Your avoidance to answer the question made me curious as to why you are defensive of the question(What do you have to hide). It may seem like an obsession to you because you keep avoiding the question and I keep asking, that is all.
It was you who said you would tell me which bible for which situation and question. Once again my situation and/or question was too general for you. We could keep going round in circles, so that people on this website can know which bible you will use for each particular verse.

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Darkstar was asking?(I could be wrong, I said Darkstar, because he seems to know about the bible)

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Minimalist was asking?(Because you 2 get along so well)

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Lion was asking?(Because Lion is a silly christian)

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Daniel was asking?(Because Daniel is a christian with many 'friends')

I do not think it is possible to get anymore pacific than I have as above. Stop avoiding my questions.

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if I was asking? I know shit about the bible, so according to what I understand from you, you would use the easy to read version for me. When was it published and by who?

Easy to Read version Genesis 1
1 God created the sky and the earth. At first,
2 the earth was completely empty. There was nothing on the earth. Darkness covered the ocean, and God’s Spirit moved over[a] the water.

Question: How was it possible for darkness to cover the ocean when it was not there? How could god spirit move over water that was not there? The very first 2 lines of the bible and there are errors. How is it that your supposed god stuffed up the first 2 lines? If god is perfect, why are the first 2 lines wrong?


Don''t forget to answer the following;(you keep avoiding questions)

Can you show me an online dictionary where One means bible?

What's so special(or different) about the translating of the bible compared to other texts?

What is your important life changing question you want to move onto?

[Drich]

What if you are not talking to anyone and no question is being asked, which bible would you use for yourself?

I own KJV,NIV and a easy to read, plus If I am on line I might use what was ever qued up last or if I am looking for something specific I will use the Amplified.

The "Blue letter" is not a version of a holy bible, it is a holy bible tool. On the blue letter website it has a list of version with just abbreviations. Could you please tell us what the abbreviations mean

No as I said from the beginning the blue letter is a Greek/Hebrew Lexicon. Meaning it gives each word a number and then the orginal word that it was translated from, plus a several definations and then which defination was used in a given context.

KJV

King James Version

NKJV

New King James Version

NLT

New Living Translation

NIV

New International translation

ESV

English standard version

RVR

Valera Antigua Bible

NASB

New American Standard Bible

RSV

Revised Standard version

ASV

American Standard bible

YLT

Young's Literal translation

DBY

Darby translation bible.

WEB

World English bible

HNV

Hebrew names Version

VUL

Latian Vulgate bible

WLC(Hebrew)

Westminster Leningrad Codex

LXX(Greek)

Greek Septuagint

mGNT(Greek)

Morphological,Greek,New,Testament,

TR(Greek)

Textus Receptus

Do you know how many versions of the bible are?(approximation is okay)

There are over two thousand different translations in different languages.

It is not important, it is just amazing why it is so hard for me to know exactly which version you use.

Because you assume that every christian can only use one translation. I do not have a favorite. Each translations has it's strengths and weaknesses. I use the strongest one according to what it is I am trying to accomplish.

I understand you use different versions for different situations. I am trying to know which version you use if someone on this forum asks you a question about the holy bible

Depending on the specific question I may use several different translations.

No, I do not believe in the bible or god.

This is becomming a pearls before swine excersize really quickly.

It does not. It was YOU who said GIVE ME A SITUATION AND QUESTION AND YOU WOULD TELL ME WHICH VERSION.

Which you have failed to do. i asked for a specific question, you gave me a general question. In return I gave a general answer.

I fitted my question to what you said you needed to answer the question.

Do you not know enough to ask a biblically based question? If not then know every answer I would give you would start with the easy to read version.

To me it started out as a simple question. Then you gave a smart ass response and not an answer to the question. You have said many times now that you use many bibles, UNDERSTOOD. It could have been quite simple for you to explain this from the very first time I asked my original question. Your avoidance to answer the question made me curious as to why you are defensive of the question(What do you have to hide). It may seem like an obsession to you because you keep avoiding the question and I keep asking, that is all.

i have not avoided anything I have asnwer Exactly what your questions were asking. Nothing more.

It was you who said you would tell me which bible for which situation and question. Once again my situation and/or question was too general for you. We could keep going round in circles, so that people on this website can know which bible you will use for each particular verse.

And I still do not see one biblically based question from you.

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Darkstar was asking?

NKJV or the blue letter based on the question he has asked.

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Minimalist was asking?(Because you 2 get along so well)

When He asks a question, I use the Blue letter because he does not acknoweledge given translations. I have to give the greek.

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Lion was asking?(Because Lion is a silly christian)

Ampflied because he would undoubtedly would want to see any orther verses that tied to what we were discussing.

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if Daniel was asking?(Because Daniel is a christian with many 'friends')

All christians would get an initial offering from the NKJV or the Amplified depending on the question.

Question is, which bible would you use for each verse of the holy bible if I was asking I know shit about the bible, so according to what I understand from you, you would use the easy to read version for me. When was it published and by who??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy-to-Read_Version

Easy to Read version Genesis 1
1 God created the sky and the earth. At first,
2 the earth was completely empty. There was nothing on the earth. Darkness covered the ocean, and God’s Spirit moved over[a] the water.

Question: How was it possible for darkness to cover the ocean when it was not there?

Why do you assume 'it' was not there?(What ever 'it' maybe?)

How could god spirit move over water that was not there? The very first 2 lines of the bible and there are errors. How is it that your supposed god stuffed up the first 2 lines? If god is perfect, why are the first 2 lines wrong?

Can you show me an online dictionary where One means bible?

Dictionary.com:
Defination #2
one
[wuhn] Show IPA

adjective
2.
being a person, thing, or individual instance or member of a number, kind, group, or category indicated: one member of the party.

The Context of the answer given refered to the Kind, group, or catagory indicated of bible I was prone to use. A Holy "One." Just like if you asked what color of Car i drove. I would have reasponded a "Red ONE."

What's so special(or different) about the translating of the bible compared to other texts?

Because their are singular texts being contextually translated. (kinda like the easy to read version.) With the bible there a acoupple different codexs or several different source materials that one can use to translate into a legitmate bible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

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Christinsanity is a Smorgasbord religion - with the "believers" choosing the points in which to beleive - and rejecting what they do not agree with - making it a personal work in progress - which is simply MORE proof that it is nonsense.

What is the greatest command of Christianity. the one command that all Christians unite under?
(I won't make fun of you if you do not know. I ask because it give legitmacy to every form of christianity)

If the god were real - it would establish a single unified acceptance of its reality -

He did this with the Jews and with Christians (I suppose for not other reason so we would know that one religion lead by men will not work.) Look at the Failure of the Jews with the Pharasees and Saducees. Look at the Christian failure durning the Dark ages. Why would God want to establish something He knows will not work even after He has proved it to us several different times?

And for a logical person - how does a person wade through this quagmire of gods and beliefs ? Well - while there are those who claim that you cannot prove a god dioes not exist - that is simply NOT TRUE. Gods of religions are not a simple generic higher power - that might or might not have done anything. THere are specific claims made about gods of religions - and one can TEST those claims to see if they ALL can be true. IF they cannot be - then the god of that religion is not true as well.

You can start be reasearching what these religions actually believe rather than painting them with a broad brush, and assuming that all are pretty much the same. I can tell you after twenty some odd years of this (looking at other religions as well as Christianity) that none of the others offer a personal indewelling relationship with the God of the universe. If I were to choose between a relationship with God and enlightenment (and I literally did) I would choose relationship every time.

AND that is where the variability of christinsanity comes in - because KNOWING that no being could possible fulfill all of the contradictory and impossible claims made in the bible alone - an xtian must either disregard lots of what is there - or simply make up his own list of what he will accept.

Says the guy who heard from another guy who stood on the sidelines of some church...

You are speaking in broad meaning generalities. If you want to discuss specific we can, if not or if you can not speak to specifics just ask a question.

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[quote='Drich' pid='368877' dateline='1354483014']
What you said:



What I read: oink, oink, oink...

Ah! so.. She looks like she is making fun of the 'orentials.'

[catfish]

Drich, how can Jesus be God if he said that he wasn't good, that only God was and he exhibited a will that was not God's? (feel free to call me blashemous)
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[Waratah]

I own KJV,NIV and a easy to read, plus If I am on line I might use what was ever qued up last or if I am looking for something specific I will use the Amplified.

Fuck me, why not say this in the first place, instead of fucking wasting everyone's time.

No as I said from the beginning the blue letter is a Greek/Hebrew Lexicon. Meaning it gives each word a number and then the orginal word that it was translated from, plus a several definations and then which defination was used in a given context.

You called it a bible first, "blue letter bible"

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King James Version

New King James Version

New Living Translation

New International translation

English standard version

Valera Antigua Bible

New American Standard Bible

Revised Standard version

American Standard bible

Young's Literal translation

Darby translation bible.

World English bible

Hebrew names Version

Latian Vulgate bible

Westminster Leningrad Codex

Greek Septuagint

Morphological,Greek,New,Testament,

Textus Receptus

There are over two thousand different translations in different languages.

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Because you assume that every christian can only use one translation. I do not have a favorite. Each translations has it's strengths and weaknesses. I use the strongest one according to what it is I am trying to accomplish.

Is there a strongest one?

Depending on the specific question I may use several different translations.

This is becomming a pearls before swine excersize really quickly.

What does "pearls before swine excersize" mean?

Which you have failed to do. i asked for a specific question, you gave me a general question. In return I gave a general answer.

Another lie. hock: I think you are a habitual liar. Not good for such a christian person. This is what you said.
"If you want to know which one I use in a given situation then provide the situation and ask a question." Stop avoiding questions and also stop lying. Show me where you asked for pacific question? Liar.

Do you not know enough to ask a biblically based question? If not then know every answer I would give you would start with the easy to read version.

i have not avoided anything I have asnwer Exactly what your questions were asking. Nothing more.

Lie

And I still do not see one biblically based question from you.

Why are you moving the the goal posts again with your inclusion now of "biblically" for a question. See below for question

NKJV or the blue letter based on the question he has asked.

Blue is not a bible. So for all verses it would be the NKJV for Darkstar.

When He asks a question, I use the Blue letter because he does not acknoweledge given translations. I have to give the greek.

As you and I agree blue letter is not a bible. So which greek version is used for Minimalist?

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Ampflied because he would undoubtedly would want to see any orther verses that tied to what we were discussing.

All christians would get an initial offering from the NKJV or the Amplified depending on the question.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy-to-Read_Version

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Easy to Read version Genesis 1
1 God created the sky and the earth. At first,
2 the earth was completely empty. There was nothing on the earth. Darkness covered the ocean, and God’s Spirit moved over[a] the water.

Why do you assume 'it' was not there?(What ever 'it' maybe?)

It is the ocean. I assume it was not there due to the words "completely empty"
Here is the question again

Question: How was it possible for darkness to cover the ocean when the ocean was not there?

And don't forget the ones you avoided

How could god spirit move over water that was not there? The very first 2 lines of the bible and there are errors. How is it that your supposed god stuffed up the first 2 lines? If god is perfect, why are the first 2 lines wrong?

Dictionary.com:
Defination #2
one
[wuhn] Show IPA

adjective
2.
being a person, thing, or individual instance or member of a number, kind, group, or category indicated: one member of the party.

The Context of the answer given refered to the Kind, group, or catagory indicated of bible I was prone to use. A Holy "One." Just like if you asked what color of Car i drove. I would have reasponded a "Red ONE."

Thanks for the NOT providing link. Your problem is you used a capital for the word One. Just admit you were being a plus your example is not the same as what you used it for.

Because their are singular texts being contextually translated. (kinda like the easy to read version.) With the bible there a acoupple different codexs or several different source materials that one can use to translate into a legitmate bible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

Thank you. I would like to point out texts other than the bible have had the same thing happen.

Have not been able to recheck properly my post, sorry for any mistakes.

Drich please make sure with your quotes are correct because it becomes quite confusing.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

What I read: oink, oink, oink...

Suddenly shit starts to make sense.

That's the best discourse from drich I've read on any forum.

Keep it up!