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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:07 pm
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(November 28, 2012 at 6:02 pm)apophenia Wrote: The only real point of contact between the notions the OP appears to reference and that of classical western realism, is that both are monistic philosophies
Absolutely not. What you are indicating is more like Kashmir Saivism, which is monistic realism.
(November 28, 2012 at 6:06 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: and what is a realist?????
See post 1
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 5:59 pm)alwayson Wrote: (November 28, 2012 at 5:55 pm)Chuck Wrote: How many people here thinks the OP is a duplicitious Xtain trying to muddy the water?
I'll take that as another sign of victory.
What would you take as a sign of your confusion?
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:14 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 6:06 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: (November 28, 2012 at 6:03 pm)alwayson Wrote: I'm an atheist, but I'm not a realist.
and what is a realist?????
A person that ducks when a rock is thrown at his/her head.
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:15 pm
So what about the first post?
It doenst explain anywhere, what you perceive a "realist" to be.
Quote:All philosophical and religious positions revolve around only 2 views: Existence and Nonexistence.
I stopped reading after this to be honest, since it is a false statement.
You seem to know nothing about philosophy, and eaven worse - call your mental rubish philosophy.
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:17 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 6:15 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: So what about the first post?
It doenst explain anywhere, what you perceive a "realist" to be.
The first two sentences:
"Theism and Western atheism are both based on the assumption that things exist. Thus both are on the same continuum of realism. "
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:23 pm
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(November 28, 2012 at 6:17 pm)alwayson Wrote: "Theism and Western atheism are both based on the assumption that things exist. Thus both are on the same continuum of realism. "
what do you mean with "based"!?
the entire philosophical catigory questioning what we can perceive and know, is called Epistemology. Now that is a school of philosophy and therefor part of humanistic science all over the world and certainly not the determining funderment of western sociaty.
And still:
What is "realism"?
that things exist? wtf!? "just ignore the highway traffic and run accross the road!"
you bet that I dont ignore reality, and dont let people who ignore reality run importent things - that would be insane
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:24 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 6:14 pm)cato123 Wrote: (November 28, 2012 at 6:06 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: and what is a realist?????
A person that ducks when a rock is thrown at his/her head.
One could only hope alwayson laughs contemptious when he sees what he conceive to be the illusion of a rock is thrown at his head.
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 6:07 pm)alwayson Wrote: (November 28, 2012 at 6:02 pm)apophenia Wrote: The only real point of contact between the notions the OP appears to reference and that of classical western realism, is that both are monistic philosophies
Absolutely not. What you are indicating is more like Kashmir Saivism, which is monistic realism.
I disagree with this, but I'm more interested in your implication that your view is not a form of monism. That you postulate that the universe consists of two or more categorically distinct types of substance. Is this what you believe? If so, what are these distinct substances?
(Not that I expect a more sensible response than the non-response given above. You strike me as the type of new age charlatan who "read a book once" or spent too much time sucking down the spiritual jizzum at the foot of a master.)
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:37 pm
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(November 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm)apophenia Wrote: I disagree with this, but I'm more interested in your implication that your view is not a form of monism. That you postulate that the universe consists of two or more categorically distinct types of substance. Is this what you believe? If so, what are these distinct substances?
I'm not understanding where you are getting these "two distinct substances", monism etc.
I have stated none of these things.
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RE: Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.
November 28, 2012 at 6:41 pm
(November 28, 2012 at 6:37 pm)alwayson Wrote: Have you read the first post?
I'm not understanding where you are getting these "two distinct substances" or monism?
I have stated none of these things. Don't impose your fucked up views on me.
ahhh the "fuck you I`m special" statement.
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