What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?

[Angrboda]

I'm wondering why a worldview that is self-attesting needs an apologetic. Or a priestly class.

[Cyberman]

Follow the money.

[clemdog14]

I have to admit that that is a good question. I have never really thought of a "defeater" for my faith.

What kind of defeater are you proposing? Is it one based on logic or faith?

[Cato]

I have to admit that that is a good question. I have never really thought of a "defeater" for my faith.

What kind of defeater are you proposing? Is it one based on logic or faith?

Logic or faith? This is a false dichotomy. Given the appropriate premises, I can defend your faith with logic. Logic is a tool, not much different than statistics. What you are after is the difference between reason and faith. Your logic can be sound; however, only reason can test the premises.

Your faith doesn't fear logic, it fears reason.

[clemdog14]

I have to admit that that is a good question. I have never really thought of a "defeater" for my faith.

What kind of defeater are you proposing? Is it one based on logic or faith?

Logic or faith? This is a false dichotomy. Given the appropriate premises, I can defend your faith with logic. Logic is a tool, not much different than statistics. What you are after is the difference between reason and faith. Your logic can be sound; however, only reason can test the premises.

Your faith doesn't fear logic, it fears reason.

You got me there! Didn't really mean to make it a false dilemma.

Hm. Taking an existentialist viewpoint, I guess that in order to have my faith, I would have to abandon reason. In other words, having faith is an absurdity because I have to abandon reason. Yet, I still believe.

I have a question. Based on your statement: "Your logic can be sound; however, only reason can test the premises" can this statement itself be proven with logic?

On this thread's question, I would say that my defeater would be if I didn't feel anything from God. That would be my defeater.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

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On this thread's question, I would say that my defeater would be if I didn't feel anything from God. That would be my defeater.

First of all, this is specifically about Christianity. I'm not targeting theism or deism in general. The arguments I've seen connecting the existence of God to the existence of of the Christian God are more convoluted than the game board to Chutes and Ladders.

What do you mean by "feel"? I'm guessing you mean as in desire. What makes you think this "feeling" implies anything about the existence of the Christian God and the Christian reality?

[clemdog14]

The arguments I've seen connecting the existence of God to the existence of of the Christian God are more convoluted than the game board to Chutes and Ladders

I admit that most of the arguments are circular.

What do you mean by "feel"?

I do not mean "desire." I mean actually feel Christ in my heart. Feeling as in a soothing peace that is inexpiable. A fire that burns in my heart. A feeling that is physical, yet mysterious.

[Faith No More]

What makes you certain that the source of your feeling is external?

[Brian37]

What makes you certain that the source of your feeling is external?

They have scientific lab tested and peer reviewed........Oh wait,

"I just know my feelings are", which is nothing but denial that they are pulling crap out of their butts because the woo is sexier than mundane reality.

They know it just like a kid believes in Santa, it sounds nice.

[Norfolk And Chance]

So dying is now a supernatural event?

If the new rule had read "dying or similar supernatural event" you would have a valid point. That you deliberately chose to interpret the sentence the way you did speaks volumes about your integrity and honesty. That you underscored your own deliberate misinterpretation with derisory laughter merely says you are a git. No wonder there's no agreement on more complex matters if you deflect the line of inquiry with the wording of a simple eight-word sentence. I submit that any meaningful dialogue with a person known for behaving in this sort of dickish way to avoid discussion is going to be impossible.

Agreed!