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Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
(December 10, 2012 at 9:41 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: And Daniel, I don't expect to "change" people, but when an opportunity for advice or support presents itself (in real life or the internet) and is given and is summarily dismissed, I accept that someone wants to remain as they are, at least at that moment.
Well that's because he isn't seeking advice, he's asking if other people have experienced what he has experienced. You're the one who saw it as an invitation to "give advice".
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
How much of one's intelligence does one has to sacrifice for such vaunted "Christian happiness"? Tongue

PS- I was replying to FNM.
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
(December 10, 2012 at 9:43 am)Faith No More Wrote: I understand, and believe me, I am just as frustrated with his dismissals of every idea put forth. My point was that he seems to me to be unrealistically intent on receiving a magic recipe for living happily without god, rather than being intent on staying depressed.
Yep, he thinks he knows it all as I pointed out right at the beginning. This is something very typical of his age and certainly not unique to the OP and certainly I don't mean it as an insult just an observation.
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
LastPoet Wrote:How much of one's intelligence does one has to sacrifice for such vaunted "Christian happiness"?

If one is seeking "Christian happiness," one probably does not have intelligence to sacrifice. Wink

Aractuc Wrote:Yep, he thinks he knows it all as I pointed out right at the beginning. This is something very typical of his age and certainly not unique to the OP and certainly I don't mean it as an insult just an observation.

I think it is more typical of the human condition, not just a certain age.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
Possibly, but to an extent I was like that at his age.
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
(December 10, 2012 at 9:53 am)Aractus Wrote:
(December 10, 2012 at 9:43 am)Faith No More Wrote: I understand, and believe me, I am just as frustrated with his dismissals of every idea put forth. My point was that he seems to me to be unrealistically intent on receiving a magic recipe for living happily without god, rather than being intent on staying depressed.
Yep, he thinks he knows it all as I pointed out right at the beginning. This is something very typical of his age and certainly not unique to the OP and certainly I don't mean it as an insult just an observation.

Implying advice.
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
IMO atheism is a liberating experience while you are having a transformation. After that atheism is just obvious to me but I'm still agnostic about it of course.
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
I was just looking for someone who had a similar experience to me as opposed to the experience Dawkins had.

I have found somebody who can relate to what I was talking about on a music forum instead.

Indeed the more I discuss atheism with atheists, the more I realise I do not share the same perceptions as atheists so have stopped attaching myself to the label.
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
Atheists are a very diverse scattered bunch of people.
The only requirement to belong to such a group is: no belief in any divinity.

Most probably didn't go through what you're going through.... but some have, or are still going through it... it may be worth waiting out for them... Wink
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RE: Is atheism a liberating and good experience?
I appreciate that... but then I don't label myself anti-santa or anti-leprechaun and discuss how much I don't believe in them and I feel the same way about them as the concepts of god I learnt as a child.

Indeed, I think agnosticism can be no belief in any divinity as well. So I'll choose that if I need to but I'll remain as "other" for now.
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