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Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
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 (January 1, 2013 at 12:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The earliest extant "Hebrew" bible dates only to the early 11th century AD.That's not entirely correct. The Masoretic Text is the authoritative preservation of the OT text (despite the fact that God commanded the Levites to do it), and the tradition was to bury the old scrolls and retire them, which is basically what the Masorites did. The DSS contain well in excess of enough material to prove the diligent nature with which the MT was preserved, for instance a complete Isiah scroll. Quote:If the Dead Sea Scrolls tell us anything it is that these various writings existed as separate documents and had not been "canonized" into a single book as late as 70 AD."If they tell us anything" hey? They are a great assist and tell us a great number of things. You clearly don't have much idea about what you're talking about here! PS: They were never a "single book" the Palestinian scripture (aka temple scrolls) was always 22 scrolls, I already said that. When did bounded codices begin to appear anyway? You wouldn't expect codices for the OT until 2nd century or later. And you've already established that the Jews continued to use scrolls and not codices until the 11th century! So why on earth would you expect to find a bound Palestinian OT scriptures at the time of Christ??? The "Eastern Orthodox" theory that the OT scripture was changed in 70AD has been throughly disproved, give that tired argument a rest already would you!  (January 1, 2013 at 2:52 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(December 31, 2012 at 10:28 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: And how about the whole bible while you're at it? Up to 16 now. 
 RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2013 at 3:23 pm by Minimalist.)
RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 3, 2013 at 7:57 am
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2013 at 8:06 am by Aractus.)
 (January 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: A lot of good questions but I dont want to derail Aractus' interesting thread. That would be because they are fictional characters. ![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif) If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.  (December 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm)Aractus Wrote: My question is a simple one. As a Protestant, you should be the one worried about “sola scriptura”. You have omitted, or are ignorant to the MANY NEWER TRANSLATIONS that are NOT from the LV at all! Catholics don't concern themseleves about translations of the "old testament"? It's an important historical reference to... ...a New Covenant with God. The Gospel! Why are you (as a christian) trying to force more divisions between us? Aren't there enough here already? There is more to find in union with us. JESUS!
Quis ut Deus?
Quote:Codex Vaticanus contains an extant copy of the Hebrew Bible In GREEK. Not in Hebrew. Read carefully next time. (January 3, 2013 at 4:48 pm)ronedee Wrote: As a Protestant, you should be the one worried about “sola scriptura”.  Have the RCC decreed that one of these "many newer translations" is the holy infallible word of God? No they haven't. But the VULGATE has this status.Why not try answering my question, it's a simple question. If you answer my question, I'll answer your questions.  ![[Image: sarcasm2.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=forums.azcardinals.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fsarcasm2.gif) I just love it when xtians start a biatch fight ...don't you Min? "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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