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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 3:03 am
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(January 4, 2013 at 7:19 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: (January 4, 2013 at 7:09 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Mark 13:13 Wrote:But I can't resist typing what was just on the tv as I glanced across, (I wasn't watching one of the kids was) . Maybe there's something in it for you or maybe it was just a co incidence but the Movie was the recent comedy NOAH and the guy who normaly plays GOD in these ( can't rem name ) is advising NOAH wife says something along these lines. When someone prays to GOD for courage do you think he gives him courage or the opportunity to have courage, or when someone prays for patience does GOD give them patience or the opportunity to learn to be patient so maybe if you pray to GOD for faith GOD provides the opportunity to learn to have faith. I'm sorry, but I can't respond to this. My mother taught me that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Seriously though, try not to insult my intelligence in the future. It wasn't for you ; I realised later it was for me ; it just didn't hit me at the time thats not to say there may not be something in it for you.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 5:23 am
(January 5, 2013 at 3:03 am)apophenia Wrote: (January 4, 2013 at 7:19 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: It wasn't for you ; I realised later it was for me ; it just didn't hit me at the time thats not to say there may not be something in it for you.
Cheers ; thanks for that; I think you just had some divine inspiration and been given a message for the group 
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 5:25 am
(January 5, 2013 at 3:03 am)apophenia Wrote: (January 4, 2013 at 7:19 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: It wasn't for you ; I realised later it was for me ; it just didn't hit me at the time thats not to say there may not be something in it for you.
In that creepy, stalker outside the bedroom window way.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 5:30 am
(January 5, 2013 at 5:25 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (January 5, 2013 at 3:03 am)apophenia Wrote:
In that creepy, stalker outside the bedroom window way.
Well it depends what the stalker is doing or saying and then I would need to discern that with the help of the Holy Spirit and through the guidance of The Bible and the distilled wisdom of my church.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 6:32 am
Yep this abrahamic deity is a real pervert.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 7:33 am
(January 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: easiest thing for me to say is i'm pointing you toward the Cosmological Arguement....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
The cosmological argument are you serious!
Just stating that there was an uncaused first cause makes no sense.
It just pushes the question back to what caused the first cause or trying with no evidence to explain why the uncaused cause is excempt from having a cause.
It explains nothing so I reject it.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 8:30 am
(January 5, 2013 at 7:33 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (January 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: easiest thing for me to say is i'm pointing you toward the Cosmological Arguement....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
The cosmological argument are you serious!
Just stating that there was an uncaused first cause makes no sense.
It just pushes the question back to what caused the first cause or trying with no evidence to explain why the uncaused cause is excempt from having a cause.
It explains nothing so I reject it.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 8:34 am
(January 5, 2013 at 7:33 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (January 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: easiest thing for me to say is i'm pointing you toward the Cosmological Arguement....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
The cosmological argument are you serious!
Just stating that there was an uncaused first cause makes no sense.
It just pushes the question back to what caused the first cause or trying with no evidence to explain why the uncaused cause is excempt from having a cause.
It explains nothing so I reject it.
well it doesn't explain or prove anything but it does force some valid questions , can something exist without a cause? this does not in itself lead to God but it's interesting to explore where it leads.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 8:38 am
(January 5, 2013 at 8:34 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: well it doesn't explain or prove anything but it does force some valid questions , can something exist without a cause? this does not in itself lead to God but it's interesting to explore where it leads.
There are two possibilities either things have always existed or they haven't.
Both these concepts boggle the mind but until there is some way prove one or the other then it is speculation and not something to base your life on.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 9:16 am
(January 5, 2013 at 8:34 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: (January 5, 2013 at 7:33 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The cosmological argument are you serious!
Just stating that there was an uncaused first cause makes no sense.
It just pushes the question back to what caused the first cause or trying with no evidence to explain why the uncaused cause is excempt from having a cause.
It explains nothing so I reject it.
well it doesn't explain or prove anything but it does force some valid questions , can something exist without a cause? this does not in itself lead to God but it's interesting to explore where it leads.
If not god then where do you think it leads?
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