Obviously, the point I was making is that if you intend to be (or find yourself) in an environment where you may encounter certain possibilities (a collision, or any similar threatening environment), it's best to be prepared for such possibilities to arise. Your car's tough metal exterior, it's airbags and safety features, are all DEFENSIVE tools, not unlike a gun in an environment where violence is rampant.
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All Hail the Second Amendment
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 (June 24, 2016 at 6:45 pm)Spirian Wrote:Both are right.(June 24, 2016 at 6:36 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: So, you DON'T need a gun to protect yourself? You're NOT vulnerable to fear mongering and induction of paranoia?  (June 24, 2016 at 7:21 pm)Spirian Wrote: Obviously, the point I was making is that if you intend to be (or find yourself) in an environment where you may encounter certain possibilities (a collision, or any similar threatening environment), it's best to be prepared for such possibilities to arise. Your car's tough metal exterior, it's airbags and safety features, are all DEFENSIVE tools, not unlike a gun in an environment where violence is rampant. But I don't need a gun on any given day. Haven't carried one since 1989. So your analogy falls flat. RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
June 24, 2016 at 8:53 pm
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Trouble is, violence isn't rampant, and I just like to shoot paper plates and empty green bean cans....it's my version of a zen rock garden....so I don't find the self defense angle all that compelling. Violence is the furthest thing from my mind when shooting, trouble, in the general, is the furthest thing from my mind when shooting. Can't hit a target out at range with all of that distraction bubbling around. Just my two cents.
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(June 24, 2016 at 8:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Trouble is, violence isn't rampant, and I just like to shoot paper plates and empty green bean cans....it's my version of a zen rock garden....so I don't find the self defense angle all that compelling. Violence is the furthest thing from my mind when shooting, trouble, in the general, is the furthest thing from my mind when shooting. Can't hit a target out at range with all of that distraction bubbling around. Just my two cents. Add to that the fact that a gun may not be the best means of deterring a criminal. The options with a gun are "wave it around and hope you don't need to use it" and "try to kill that guy." I prefer edged weapons and cudgels myself. I always have a solidly built cane with me, and if you come into my house you'd need to some time to find all my blades. I can cut a guy without killing him, and put him to sleep, instead of put him to death. 
But in Gun Nut Nation we are now short one 4-year old.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201606..._self.html Quote:Cops: Girl, 4, believed to have accidentally shot self Quote:Philadelphia police on Friday said a 4-year-old girl who died Thursday of a bullet wound to the head may have accidentally shot herself.
You gotta have an Iver Johnson revolver if you have little kids in the house. They can play with them without shooting themselves.
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Gotta ask why you would leave a gun lying around.
(June 24, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Gotta ask why you would leave a gun lying around.You shouldn't leave a loaded gun lying around. If you leave an unloaded gun lying around someone will probably steal it or the kid will take it to school. If you have a gun accessible and the thug cops kick in your door unannounced you might reach for it and they will kill you because "they feared for their lives". Besides, once bullets start flying one of them might hit your neighbor. That will tick him off and he might burn down your house. (June 25, 2016 at 4:03 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(June 24, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Gotta ask why you would leave a gun lying around.You shouldn't leave a loaded gun lying around. If you leave an unloaded gun lying around someone will probably steal it or the kid will take it to school. If you have a gun accessible and the thug cops kick in your door unannounced you might reach for it and they will kill you because "they feared for their lives". I agree, but last night a four year old shot himself in the head. One story of many. Guns are either stored safely or ready for immediate use. If they're stored safely they're no use for the holy "home defense". If they're ready for immediate use then they're a danger to anyone in the house, and, as you mentioned, some people not even in the house. Ardent gunners refuse to consider this fact. |
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