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All Hail the Second Amendment
RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
You might have just checked the link. It contains a link to The Economist's story.

http://www.economist.com/news/united-sta...rsvbullets
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(January 12, 2015 at 5:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You might have just checked the link. It contains a link to The Economist's story.

http://www.economist.com/news/united-sta...rsvbullets

I did read it. You'll note the numbers are projections, not actual data.

And let's compare apples and apples. A tiny fraction of firearms deaths are accidental, a large majority are suicide.
Automobile deaths are almost entirely accidental due to the stupidity of drivers and the cupidity of manufacturers.

Only half of suicides are due to firearms. How many of those would occur without firearms? Not all, but not none. Most?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
So guns are good and you worship them. Got it.

Let's see how you feel about this little NRA stance?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/gun-g...y-cameras/

Quote:Gun groups vow to fight Missouri lawmaker’s bill taxing guns to pay for police body cameras

Quote:Forcing law-abiding Missourians to pay an additional tax on firearm and ammunition purchases is unmerited. Gun owners and purchasers should not be responsible for funding these projects,” the group said in a release. “The NRA will continue to fight against such misguided encroachments on those who exercise their Second Amendment rights.”

I think the tax should be 100%.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
Rough night in L-ARGO land.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/grogg...xt-to-him/

Quote:Groggy Louisiana man adjusts pants and fatally shoots friend sleeping on couch next to him


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/watch...ed-weapon/

Quote:WATCH: Kentucky cop shoots off finger after gun store clerk hands him loaded weapon
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(January 13, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Rough night in L-ARGO land.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/grogg...xt-to-him/
Quote:Groggy Louisiana man adjusts pants and fatally shoots friend sleeping on couch next to him

Are you sure they aren't just describing a night of rough gay sex?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(January 13, 2015 at 2:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/gun-g...y-cameras/

Quote:Gun groups vow to fight Missouri lawmaker’s bill taxing guns to pay for police body cameras
I actually do oppose that - and it's almost as though it were intentionally written to be tanked. Next thing you know, when it tanks, the very same people who oppose it will stand up and say "where will the funding for the cameras come from?". Looks like the work of a fifth column, to me. I'm sure they can reach into that civil seizure piggybank......seems like there might be some money there. I fail to see why we should allocate any more money to them for failing to do the job they already agreed to do, or for doing that job in such a shitty manner as to require a virtual nanny. Buckle up, no toys for christmas this year, you're all getting cameras - and it's coming out of your paycheck for a job-not-done.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(January 13, 2015 at 2:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: So guns are good and you worship them. Got it.

Oh, goody - you did it again. You can be such an asshole.

Continuing to ascribe positions to me without ever asking is just pure assholery, Min.

Quote:Let's see how you feel about this little NRA stance?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/gun-g...y-cameras/

Quote:Gun groups vow to fight Missouri lawmaker’s bill taxing guns to pay for police body cameras

Quote:Forcing law-abiding Missourians to pay an additional tax on firearm and ammunition purchases is unmerited. Gun owners and purchasers should not be responsible for funding these projects,” the group said in a release. “The NRA will continue to fight against such misguided encroachments on those who exercise their Second Amendment rights.”

I think the tax should be 100%.

I'm sure you do.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
The love affair between America and guns blossomed, and it wasn't long before they were getting married.

The priest said, "If any American knows any reason why America and guns cannot be married, speak now, or forever hold your piece."
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
Ah, 'Murrica!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/musli...r-son-duo/

Quote:‘Muslim-free’ Arkansas shooting range turns away brown-skinned father-son duo

Quote:“Since I have no way of discerning which Muslims will or will not kill in the name of their religion and the commands in their (Quran), I choose to err on the side of caution for the safety of my patrons,” Morgan posted on her website.


You're also too stupid to own a gun, asshole.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
So much for the good guy with a gun horseshit.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/texas...till-dies/

Quote:Texas gun rights group reenacts Paris massacre with ‘armed civilian’ — and everyone still dies

Quote:Over the weekend, a Texas gun rights group repeatedly reenacted the Charlie Hebdo massacre in order to determine whether it could have been prevented if one of the editors or cartoonists had been armed, CBS DFW reports.

Members of the group, “The Truth About Guns,” recreated the Hebdo offices, then took turns playing the role of the “armed civilian” in the scenario.

No matter how the situation played out, though, one thing remained consistent — if the “armed civilian” confronted the attackers, he or she died. The only time the “armed civilian” survived was when the volunteer playing him ran away at the first sound of gunfire.
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