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the wife beating verse
January 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm
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RE: the wife beating verse
January 5, 2013 at 10:00 pm
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Just on a side note id like to point out how far removed from an original source the word of god is now.
It comes from god to an illiterate man who needs it to be written down for him, Then the book is compiled from collections of writtings and recitations that were remembered by other men then it needs to be re written over and over as the pages of the book age over the history of time for 1500 years or so, THEN it needs to be translated because not everyone speaks classic arabic Then when the words are translated they seem to indicate the book is scientifically and morally wrong so they need to be explained by ANOTHER man who claims to know more about the language and history of the book,
At this point its pretty far removed as it is but THEN it turns out even thier viewpoints are contradictory so youre going to come back with even more scholarly opinions on the book.
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RE: the wife beating verse
January 5, 2013 at 10:34 pm
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Id also like to add in all fairness that this thread isnt about what does or doesnt go on within Islam, its mainly about the fundamental verses, the main points of which ive raised in my previous posts. It can basically be split into two points.
1 The verses do speak of a husband beating his wife and the excuses arent good enough
2 Even IF these excuses were correct why would god create a book in which even the scholars and experts cant agree on what is said within the book. And why would he rely on these scholars in the first place to spread his message when they blatently arent doing a good job of it since they even disagree with each other. And not everyone in the world has access to communication with a quranic scholar which makes the message even more bias about who can seem to understand it.
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RE: the wife beating verse
January 6, 2013 at 9:30 am
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RE: the wife beating verse
January 6, 2013 at 10:44 am
My objection to this isnt that no one likes to be hit, my objection is that you have what the quran says which is you should admonish then banish from your bedroom then beat a wife who you fear rebelion from,
and you have gone from this to the absurd senario of a woman spending the guys cash on whatever she wants, letting men into the house who are enemies of her husband and really acting out of control, then the husband comes home. What does he do?
He gets out the toothbrush and taps her with it. Yeh im sure she will learn from that. Sorry just being sarcastic.
Ive known some rebelious girls and women in my time and if you tapped them with a toothbrush to punish them they would take the brush off you slap you round the head with it and tell you to get out.
Besides youre talking about Sunnah which has no authority over the quran in islam, a man can beat his wife abiding by the quran and not even have to think about what the sunnah says.
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