Why is life worth living as an atheist?

[Zone]

I like this hypothetical game...

My life would take a substantial hit. Yes, it would probably devastate me enough to at minimum, contemplate suicide. But my hopes are that I would realize that my family would never want this of me. The best thing I could do is not to dishonor their memory by ending my own life. No deity needed.

So you believe your family would be waiting for you on the other side and are still observing your life? You see that's a very Christian way of looking at it. But if instead they no longer exist they are no longer a consideration so what you would have to do then is take your life. But with God through his son Jesus Christ life would still be worth living as through that your family would still be an important part of your life. A family of God, it has Jesus, the Holy Spirit and a bunch of angels in it.

I did not build my life around snowboarding. Snowboarding fell into the life I was already building. If I lose my legs, I would be emotionally crushed. However, I've seen quite a few paralyzed/legless people still enjoying the snow. Although I wouldn't be snowboarding, I'd still be shredding the pow somehow. Suicide is not an option. No deity needed.

You could enjoy the snow and also enjoy the eternal salvation and love of God through Jesus as well. So you would be more happy with the crushed legs and a living heart of faith than you would be with legs and snowboarding.

I see no God in the stars. In fact, looking up is what sparked my road to non-belief. That's right, the very stars that you claim were made by the hands of God are what made me believe that she does not exist. I do see glory and goodness, but it is through chaos. The Universe is filled to the brim with things that can kill us in an instant. Massive stars exploding and creating absolute destruction in its wake. Yet, that destruction brings life. Asteroids bombarding planets constantly. Yet, sometimes they bring water. The Universe is orderly in a completely non-orderly way.

But through that chaos and destruction life was formed, seeing as our bodies and everything you see on Earth was formed from the heart of dead exploded stars. So death is a part of the cycle of life and that cycle was initaed by an eternal changless living God whose handiwork you can see and appreacite in the heavens and on Earth.

I could lose my eyes, but I won't lose my love of Astronomy. The visuals are only a minute part of it. No deity needed.

You would see very much looking down a telescope without an eyeball. But you don't need to see God to experience his presence in your life right now through Christ.

[NoahsFarce]

So you believe your family would be waiting for you on the other side and are still observing your life? You see that's a very Christian way of looking at it. But if instead they no longer exist they are no longer a consideration so what you would have to do then is take your life. But with God through his son Jesus Christ life would still be worth living as through that your family would still be an important part of your life. A family of God, it has Jesus, the Holy Spirit and a bunch of angels in it.

I'm afraid you are taking my comment out-of-context. Not shocking Mr. Theist as that's what theists do best. In life, my family would want me to move on after any possible tragedy. I did not mean they are observing me in the afterlife. It's a matter of honoring their memory. No deity needed.

You could enjoy the snow and also enjoy the eternal salvation and love of God through Jesus as well. So you would be more happy with the crushed legs and a living heart of faith than you would be with legs and snowboarding.

Don't put words into my mouth or thoughts into my brain kind sir. No faith is strong enough to overtake my love of snowboarding. No deity needed.

But through that chaos and destruction life was formed, seeing as our bodies and everything you see on Earth was formed from the heart of dead exploded stars. So death is a part of the cycle of life and that cycle was initaed by an eternal changless living God whose handiwork you can see and appreacite in the heavens and on Earth.

No sir, I'm afraid you don't understand your own bible as well as I do. Wait, you're Christian right? Your bible says we were created by God. However, I'm not sure if we were created by dirt the first time. I say "first time" because Genesis 1 talks about man being created after vegetation then Genesis 2 talks about man being created from dirt before vegetation. Oh there was something about an omnipotent being resting on the 7th day which. Nowhere in this clusterfuck does it mention man being created from dead stars. No deity needed.

You would see very much looking down a telescope without an eyeball. But you don't need to see God to experience his presence in your life right now through Christ.

I don't need a telescope. In fact, I have yet to own one. Most of my love of astronomy comes from lectures. I don't need to see the heavens (not your heaven) to experience the presence of the Universe coursing through my veins. Besides, I have had the pleasure of sight all my life. The imagery of the Universe is forever etched into my brain. No deity needed.

[Zone]

I'm afraid you are taking my comment out-of-context. Not shocking Mr. Theist as that's what theists do best. In life, my family would want me to move on after any possible tragedy. I did not mean they are observing me in the afterlife. It's a matter of honoring their memory. No deity needed.

But as a true God fearing the memory of your family would be something to inspire you in the hope that one day you will be reunited but as an atheist the moemory will only remind you of your eternal loss. So suicide would then be your only option. So this is why you must convert to true faith, right now because you can't know what the future may bring.

Don't put words into my mouth or thoughts into my brain kind sir. No faith is strong enough to overtake my love of snowboarding. No deity needed.

You would still have your love of snowboarding but you will also have a love of God in addition to that. So you will have nothing to lose by getting yourself into that baptismal font and being born a new in Christ. Snowboarding is only a temporal thrill while God that's a permanent and everlasting head rush.

No sir, I'm afraid you don't understand your own bible as well as I do. Wait, you're Christian right?

No I'm an agnostic playing Devils Advocate. I can appreciate what Christians believe and why so I'm throwing this stuff at you.

Your bible says we were created by God. However, I'm not sure if we were created by dirt the first time. I say "first time" because Genesis 1 talks about man being created after vegetation then Genesis 2 talks about man being created from dirt before vegetation. Oh there was something about an omnipotent being resting on the 7th day which. Nowhere in this clusterfuck does it mention man being created from dead stars. No deity needed.

The order of creation described in Genesis apparently matches with the order in which the Earth and the solar was formed.

1) God creates the heaven and earth without form and commands there to be light—a perfect description of the big bang

2) God creates dry land out of the waters; water is crucial for life

3) God brings forth grass, herb yielding seed and fruit trees which are nothing of the sort, but rather photosynthesising life in general, cyanobacteria in particular (bacteria which can photosynthesise).

4) The sun and moon had previously been created at some point. It is now that the first eye evolves which could distinguish between day and night.

5) abundant sea life evolves in direct response to the evolution of vision.

6) Creation of birds, then animals, cattle and finally homo sapiens

7) God has a rest

I don't need a telescope. In fact, I have yet to own one. Most of my love of astronomy comes from lectures. I don't need to see the heavens (not your heaven) to experience the presence of the Universe coursing through my veins. Besides, I have had the pleasure of sight all my life. The imagery of the Universe is forever etched into my brain. No deity needed.

You just claimed that what is within you will last forever even though you must know that your physical brain actually won't. So demonstating that you have a belief in the unseen spiritual realm of which we all form an part through the everlasting grace of God.

[NoahsFarce]

LoL this isn't fun anymore. TL;DR style.

Anyway, I know you are just playing Devil's Advocate. I was responding to you as if you were a theist because you were slinging theistic arguments at me.

You have only further demonstrated why it is mind-numbingly difficult to debate the devout. Semantics are a bitch sometimes.

[Darkstar]

But as a true God fearing the memory of your family would be something to inspire you in the hope that one day you will be reunited but as an atheist the moemory will only remind you of your eternal loss. So suicide would then be your only option. So this is why you must convert to true faith, right now because you can't know what the future may bring.

Don't you think it would make a lot more sense to commit suicide as a theist? Then you'd be reunited so much faster! As an atheist you have an actual reason not to, i.e. there is nothing more for you if you do.

You would still have your love of snowboarding but you will also have a love of God in addition to that. So you will have nothing to lose by getting yourself into that baptismal font and being born a new in Christ. Snowboarding is only a temporal thrill while God that's a permanent and everlasting head rush.

Why would love of god make someone happy? He clearly doesn't care about us, considering he's playing such a good game of hide and seek.

You just claimed that what is within you will last forever even though you must know that your physical brain actually won't. So demonstating that you have a belief in the unseen spiritual realm of which we all form an part through the everlasting grace of God.

Not when you're dead, but believing in an afterlife won't make it any more real than if you don't. What you think/wish is true does not affect what is actually true.

[Norfolk And Chance]

Hello. I am new to the forum and this is my first post so if my question seems ridiculous or redundant please forgive me (also English isn't my first language). I will try to give it some context below and describe it in detail.

I am an atheist at this time of my life and I think I will remain an atheist, if not for the occurrence of an epiphany later on, which does not seem very probable to me (I am 25). To me it isn't so much a choice being an atheist but it is rather what life has shaped me to be so far so I am not interested in debating atheism or the existence of supernatural beings. I am interested in answers from other atheists who asked themselves this question because they had the same dilemma.

My question is not what is the meaning of life, because I don't feel you can give meaning to life and I think life just is. If you choose to give it some personal meaning, to me it seems somewhat irrelevant or to no purpose in the grand scheme of things (what I mean by this is how insignificant we are in relation to the universe we inhabit). So this leaves to me a scenario where we live a life without meaning to experience different things and ideally to draw pleasure from them. But to what extent can we really do that? Let's assume we have reached a certain age when we have already experienced a wide array of sensations and feelings and we have saw and done a lot of things. It just seems to me that all that will follow are variations of these things in a somewhat repetitive pattern. Sure, some may seem fun or exciting or beautiful at first, but the longer you repeat something it starts to lose it's initial appeal. If we combine this with the struggles of living and surviving in the world and with the pain and suffering that comes with it (that seems to increase with age at least for me), then I am left to ask myself why is life worth living?

Life is worth living because you won't live long enough to get bored of repeating those pleasures or variations on them.

I can see how an eternal afterlife could be a bit of a pisser though.

[xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx]

Why is life worth living as an athiest?