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Gun Control: Say What you Mean.
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RE: Gun Control: Say What you Mean.
(January 8, 2013 at 9:09 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: I agree. Jesus defeated Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

So do I, Robo Jesus destroys all he sees

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(January 8, 2013 at 6:53 am)A Theist Wrote: Aside from a border war against the Japanese in Manchuria in the late 1930's which lasted only a few months, the Russians didn't battle them in the Pacific on a scale that the U.S. and the Brits did...It was only after the war in Europe had ended did the Russians start an invasion into Japan...by that time the Japanese army and navy had already been pretty much weakened by the U.S.

Not only that but....we dropped two atomic bombs on them! I don't think the Japanese surrendered to minor Russian incursions into Manchuria. Those were just a land grab against a falling empire. It baffles me that anyone actually believes something else. I mean it's possible that Russia would of hastened the surrender if .we hadn't dropped two atomic bombs on them!
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(January 8, 2013 at 11:44 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(January 8, 2013 at 6:53 am)A Theist Wrote: Aside from a border war against the Japanese in Manchuria in the late 1930's which lasted only a few months, the Russians didn't battle them in the Pacific on a scale that the U.S. and the Brits did...It was only after the war in Europe had ended did the Russians start an invasion into Japan...by that time the Japanese army and navy had already been pretty much weakened by the U.S.

Not only that but....we dropped two atomic bombs on them! I don't think the Japanese surrendered to minor Russian incursions into Manchuria. Those were just a land grab against a falling empire. It baffles me that anyone actually believes something else. I mean it's possible that Russia would of hastened the surrender if .we hadn't dropped two atomic bombs on them!
Quote: It baffles me that anyone actually believes something else.
....considering that all of the anti-American hoopla and vitriol is coming from the left and from the europeans, they don't want to see it any other way....the left will take every opportunity to downplay and to demean the value of America's role in just about everything...the Russians did very little in the Pacific campaign, and by the time they started their invasion after the war in europe had ended the Japanese military had already been severely weakened by the U.S.....one year after Pearl Harbor, the Americans dealt one of the most decisive defeats in naval history to the Japanese in the battle of Midway....The Japanese navy never recovered....even before America entered the war, we were selling and providing a lot of military arms to Britain...I agree, dropping those bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima hastened the end of the war with Japan.
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(January 8, 2013 at 2:35 pm)A Theist Wrote: ...considering that all of the anti-American hoopla and vitriol is coming from the left and from the europeans, they don't want to see it any other way....the left will take every opportunity to downplay and to demean the value of America's role in just about everything...

Has it ever occurred to you that there might be patriotic reasons to promote a bit more modesty when we're speaking to those who live in other nations? Or that acknowledging the good other nations do might serve us a little better in these times?

You see, we practice what Jesus said, "do unto others..." America would do well to consider that admonishment.

As Lewis Black once alluded, how would we feel if we worked in an office where every day some prick strutted around making it clear to everyone that they were the best employee and everyone in that business would be lost without them? Even if it WERE true, it would get very old after a while.

This reminds me of an obnoxious and personally toxic but technically talented employee I fired in the last few years. "You are difficult to replace. You are not impossible to replace" I told her and I replaced her. Eventually, being obnoxious will cost you no matter how vital you are.

We don't want that to happen to America.

We Americans are quite full of ourselves. Perhaps that's normal when one's nation is riding high as a world power. Perhaps our physical isolation of two oceans on either side has facilitated our sense of myopia. But the days when powers can beat their chests and rattle their sabers with abandon is long over. We live in an interdependent world and the problems we and other nations face, from international trade issues to climate problems to the proliferation of WMD can't be solved by one nation imposing its will on all others. We need to be a lot more constructive here.

Take the war on Al Qaida for example. If we want to win, we need the cooperation of other nations. Torturing, wars of aggression and saber rattling is counter productive in winning that international support. We can't abandon the moral high ground if we want to win.

We as liberals care about America. That's why a little more empathy and a little less chest pounding would serve us well. This bravado may feel good to you but it doesn't help your country.
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(January 8, 2013 at 3:14 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: We as liberals care about America. That's why a little more empathy and a little less chest pounding would serve us well. This bravado may feel good to you but it doesn't help your country.

This. I'm sorry A Theist, but it's guys like DP that gives the rest of world hope in a truly great USA and people like you it's well deserved badge of silliness.
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Liberals are a joke in the real world- socialism sounds great when you are in the public sector or at university, then you go into -the real world-. There's a reason why socialism is popular with young people, and then as they grow older become republicans.
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(January 8, 2013 at 3:27 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: Liberals are a joke in the real world- socialism sounds great when you are in the public sector or at university, then you go into -the real world-. There's a reason why socialism is popular with young people, and then as they grow older become republicans.
but how old r u? r u in -the real world-? how do i go there?
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#78
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I thought the Real World was a shitty 90's TV program.. Tongue
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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(January 8, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote:
(January 8, 2013 at 3:27 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: Liberals are a joke in the real world- socialism sounds great when you are in the public sector or at university, then you go into -the real world-. There's a reason why socialism is popular with young people, and then as they grow older become republicans.
but how old r u? r u in -the real world-? how do i go there?

I'm 18, I make money from various websites ranging from online gambling, to online advertising services- I also sell electronics in online retailers like ebay and amazon and also do day trading of commodities & forex.
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Poor puppy, I'm one of the youngest here too, and I've been working for 6 years and still paying high taxes sits well with me Tongue
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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